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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 - 70 Shelby => Topic started by: J_Speegle on July 17, 2009, 01:43:08 AM

Title: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on July 17, 2009, 01:43:08 AM
1- Here are some shots of the engine before the installation


Original gasket were used (white in color with a blue design) since they will remain unpainted.
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897eng.jpg)


NOTE/UPDATE: Looking at an original late  69 351W engine its been found that only one spark plug wire (#1) had the protective sleeve, that the angle boots were installed at #8 and at each engine hook plate and that the spark plug wires at the engine hook plates ran between the plate and the engine NOT outside as shown in the pictures below

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngPSfrnt210-08.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngDSfront10-08.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngTopNoAC10-08FIXed.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngFronttherm10-08FIXED.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897Eng-CoilAltarea10-08FIXE.jpg)

2- From the top

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897carbrear2.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897engtopwo-ac10-08.jpg)



3- A close up of the engine color on the exhaust manifold as original. We also left some "bare" surfaces on the block and head under the manifolds since it would have been impossible to coat all of these surfaces with the manifold in place (its hard to see in the picture - sorry)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngDSexhaust2.jpg)


NOTE/UPDATE: Looking at an original late  69 351W engine its been found that only one spark plug wire (#1) had the protective sleeve, that the angle boots were installed at #8 and at each engine hook plate and that the spark plug wires at the engine hook plates ran between the plate and the engine NOT outside as shown in the pictures below

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngDSvalvecover-1.jpg)


4- Rear of the intake showing finishes, NOS intake gaskets, and machined surfaces of the intake.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngIntakereardetail10-1.jpg)


5- And after installation.

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897EngDSexhaustFICED.jpg)

Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on July 17, 2009, 01:46:13 AM
Anyway the transmission is  detailed and in. We didn't have any reliable pictures of daubs and marks for the 69 FMX so I left them off. Remember this car will be entered in classes that allow painted surfaces to reproduce natural ones. For high classes the aluminum surfaces should not be so mono-tone IMHO

Enjoy!!

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897PSTransAfter2.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897DSTransAfter2.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897RearTransAfter.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897Transunderside2.jpg)


Thanks for viewing
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on July 17, 2009, 01:50:50 AM
Lots of little detailing as the owner sources our part needs.



Radiator and AC is pretty much in. Since no nice lines and fittings are available in reproduction we choose to go with a really nice original set I had.

AC line ends (metal) needs to be redone in dichromate

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897accondensor21.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897accondensor-1.jpg)



Real happy that the Dan (the owner) found the correct preformed heater hose (S shaped hose near the top of the picture)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897AClinesatfirewall.jpg)
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on July 17, 2009, 01:54:30 AM
PS pump and driveline here. WIll try and post a separate thread on restoring nice (read no pitting) drivelines

Not allot of interesting stuff to take pictures of but refinished the PS pump (wish I had installed it on the engine before the engine was installed :(

Its painted with NPD newest PS blue. Hard to get the contrast set correctly in the picture to show the true color of the pump.

The upper end of the neck and the area behind the tag were shot with a "natural" steel paint before the blue color was applied to reduce the possibility of rusting later. Phosphated high pressure line indexing bracket can be seen at the rear of the pump





Also started to refinish the driveline today. We started with a pretty nice one so it was not that difficult. It was stripped then wire brushed and then sanded to return the surface to a fresh metal look. The using the gun bluing repair fluid the welds were darkened and the metal in the surrounding area darkened as it would be after the welding took place.

Also added the blue stripe down the length of the tube (the tube would have been formed by forming a flat section into a tube then welding it) Usually this take on the look of a darker "blue" stripe with a softer "darkened" area like the other welded areas

Finally the ends were refinished as bare cast iron with bright machined surfaces. Then everything was cleared with a stain clear.

Look for an article describing (with pictures) in another sections of this forum

ID stripes and such added - all done for now - on to the U joints and yoke

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Articles/9F02M481897Driveline-restoredMArks2.jpg)
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on July 17, 2009, 08:00:53 PM
A few shots of the rear end installed. Enjoy!


Take notice of ALL the natural machined surfaces that should be there on a finished car


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M4818973rd.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897Rearendmrksa.jpg)



(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897Emrgycablemarks.jpg)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897rearendtubeyellowwrk.jpg)


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69%20GT350%20Restoration/9F02M481897Shelbyunder5.jpg)
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: JKWilson on July 25, 2009, 10:16:13 PM
Jeff I've been really curious about how the resto was coming along. Thanks for sharing. I've recently begun disassembly of a car. Following the examples you and Charles have set for documenting and photographing, I've begun the same. I've come to realize how much extra time it adds to a project, though I realize it also saves time in the long run with good references to return to. I have a much greater appreciation for the efforts you guys so willingly share. A big THANKS!!!
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: astat1 on September 02, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
Jeff, is a drain plug in the fuel tank correct? Is it dependent on month of production? Thanks, Darryl
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on September 02, 2009, 09:02:25 PM
Jeff, is a drain plug in the fuel tank correct? Is it dependent on month of production? Thanks, Darryl

Yes the drain in the fuel tank is dependent on when the car was assembled at Ford

Need to check (can't recall at the moment) if we "know" when specifically, the change was
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: astat1 on September 02, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Thanks for the reply Jeff. I see your car is an early May car. I have a May 26 build, and believe it to be a no drain car. If you get a chance I would be interested in knowing a changeover date and also what would be considered a grey period (either could be correct). Darryl S
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on September 03, 2009, 12:30:31 AM
Yes I was reminded (could not find where I listed the build date above) that the completion date was April 2nd.  Making it closer and after your car.

Yes I would guess they may have been a transition period where both styles were installed since it was just a design change and not related to a safety issue (where they have hard end dates due to liability)

Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on March 22, 2017, 06:04:13 PM
Adding some pictures to this thread for reference for another discussion.

Reproduction front vacuum can being test fitted

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-220317170038.jpeg)



Since we choose to use a reproduction we needed to hide the fact that it used a brass fitting for an attachment. We choose to black out the fitting since it was not the right shape and if we choose to go with a silver finish that would only tend to draw eyes to that fact. Not correct but will do until we find a nice original.

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-220317170400.jpeg)



Shot of the rear vacuum canister and passenger side firewall finishes

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-220317170056.jpeg)
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: tobkob on March 22, 2017, 08:47:43 PM
Hi Jeff,
Just curious, what is the build date? April 2nd or May?
Thanks

TOB
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on March 22, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Hi Jeff,
Just curious, what is the build date? April 2nd or May?


April 2 - very very early big suspension  but with the early style tires originally. Hertz car
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: tobkob on March 23, 2017, 11:18:14 AM
Quote
April 2 - very very early big suspension  but with the early style tires originally. Hertz car
Thanks Jeff, That's what I thought. Mine is an April 7 build with big (KKX) suspension and early tires, also a Hertz car.

TOB
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: Dennis Y on November 27, 2023, 09:48:43 AM
Hey Jeff, I know this is an old thread but this was the only thread that hit when I searched for fuel tank drain plug and just wanted to verify. My car is a January 8th build so a drain plug would be correct? Thanks, Dennis
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 27, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
Hey Jeff, I know this is an old thread but this was the only thread that hit when I searched for fuel tank drain plug and just wanted to verify. My car is a January 8th build so a drain plug would be correct? Thanks, Dennis
Not Jeff but Jan 8 is typically before Ford phased out the drain plug in 69.
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 27, 2023, 11:39:18 AM
20 years ago it used to be common to only find gas tanks without drain plugs NOS and aftermarket. Now today it is just the opposite. The people trying to find a assemblyline looking gas tank for a later 69 car are typically having a difficult time.
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: J_Speegle on November 27, 2023, 02:26:36 PM
Hey Jeff, I know this is an old thread but this was the only thread that hit when I searched for fuel tank drain plug and just wanted to verify. My car is a January 8th build so a drain plug would be correct? Thanks, Dennis

No problem - same opinion as Bob posted. Your car would have had the drain
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: Dennis Y on November 28, 2023, 09:53:26 AM
Thanks everyone! Wasn't sure cause I suspect the tank was replaced once before due to previous damage. Old tank was clean on the inside but paint and other overspray on the out side plus 2 damaged mounting holes. Didn't want to take any chances and wanted to be sure. Still in Paint Purgatory but trying to take advantage of the Thanksgiving sales.
Title: Re: 69 GT350 Sportroof restoration thread - Mostly Drivetrain - Lots of pictures
Post by: specialed on November 28, 2023, 10:41:41 AM
correct