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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 - 70 Shelby => Topic started by: tobkob on January 25, 2017, 09:55:22 PM
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I know the front parking/turn signal 1157 bulbs on the '69 Shelbys looked like they were painted "amber". My question is were the front marker lights have the same coating or were they clear? Does anyone have a source for these or a way to reproduce them? http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=3002.msg15936#msg15936
Thanks,
TOB
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I know the front parking/turn signal 1157 bulbs on the '69 Shelbys looked like they were painted "amber". My question is were the front marker lights have the same coating or were they clear? Does anyone have a source for these or a way to reproduce them? http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=3002.msg15936#msg15936
Thanks,
TOB
Yes front side marker light on 69/70 Shelby were the yellow from the factory. Not the amber glass type . If you can't find any NOS then you have to paint some with a thinned out matching color paint so that they are translucent when lit.
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Thanks Bob, that's what I thought. Anyone know where I might find some NOS bulbs?
Thanks
TOB
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#1157-A at Bulbtown: Just type in your number they have lots
http://www.bulbtown.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=1157
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#1157-A at Bulbtown: Just type in your number they have lots
http://www.bulbtown.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=1157
That is the wrong one because it is the amber glass. It is a replacement not like the assemblyline installed. The assemblyline one has a yellow coating on the glass similar to paint.
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When I tried to register my 67 Shelby in Sweden after buying it in California 1977 they complained the parking lights were amber when the Swedish law said they should be white.
Took the glass off, scraped off the paint on the bulbs with my finger nail and everything was cool with the bureaucrats.
Texas Swede
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1157A bulb should get you a painted bulb
1157NA would be a amber glass bulb
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1157A bulb should get you a painted bulb
1157NA would be a amber glass bulb
Not always apparently. In the example reply #3 using that link and 1157A gets a amber bulb.
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Not always apparently. In the example reply #3 using that link and 1157A gets a amber bulb.
While the picture of the 1157A shows amber glass here's what the description says (I added the emphasis):
#1157A Amber Miniature Bulb Bay15d Base - 12.8/14.0 Volt 2.1/0.59 Amp 26.88/8.26 Watt Painted Amber S8 Double Contact (DC) Index Bayonet (Bay15d) Base. C-6/C-6 Filament Design, 24/2.2 MSCP, 1,200/5,000 Average Rated Hours. 2.0" (50.80mm) Maximum Overall Length (M.O.L.), 1.04" (26.5mm) Maximum Outer Diameter (M.O.D.). 1.25" (31.80mm) Light Center Length (L.C.L).
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While the picture of the 1157A shows amber glass here's what the description says (I added the emphasis):
#1157A Amber Miniature Bulb Bay15d Base - 12.8/14.0 Volt 2.1/0.59 Amp 26.88/8.26 Watt Painted Amber S8 Double Contact (DC) Index Bayonet (Bay15d) Base. C-6/C-6 Filament Design, 24/2.2 MSCP, 1,200/5,000 Average Rated Hours. 2.0" (50.80mm) Maximum Overall Length (M.O.L.), 1.04" (26.5mm) Maximum Outer Diameter (M.O.D.). 1.25" (31.80mm) Light Center Length (L.C.L).
Good to know! Has anyone ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE PAINTED TYPE FROM THEM
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tob is asking about the small front side light bulbs not the big park/turn signal 1157 bulb the way I read this post.
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tob is asking about the small front side light bulbs not the big park/turn signal 1157 bulb the way I read this post.
Perhaps the title of the thread is confusing some readers. These are a 194 bulb by parts store look-up so I imagine a 194A should be the bulb type.
http://www.bulbtown.com/194A_AMBER_MINIATURE_BULB_GLASS_WEDGE_BASE_p/194a.htm
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The small acorn bulbs in the front side marker are the same painted yellow. They are listed in the Shelby owners manual.
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Yellow highlighters work well on them, too.
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Yellow highlighters work well on them, too.
Yes but the highlighter looks more like the amber glass then the more opaque assemblyline painted .
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tob is asking about the small front side light bulbs not the big park/turn signal 1157 bulb the way I read this post.
Actually Ed, I knew the 1157 was a painted bulb but was unsure about the marker light bulb, but I need both unless someone has a process to replicate the finish. I matched up a close color spray bomb but have been awfully busy and haven't had an opportunity to try it (that is why I haven't got back with you about the screws...soon...).
TOB
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I think I have the answer to the painted bulbs. I did a quick try just to check the color and to see if the paint would hold up to the heat and I let them burn about 45 minutes and they still look ok plus they were plenty bright. They look very close in color to Marcus's examples.
TOB
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I think I have the answer to the painted bulbs. I did a quick try just to check the color and to see if the paint would hold up to the heat and I let them burn about 45 minutes and they still look ok plus they were plenty bright. They look very close in color to Marcus's examples.
TOB
What paint were you successful with?
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Bob, I'm not ignoring you but since I don't have an original to compare the color I have sent Ed a sample to get his opinion. ( I was sending him a package anyway.) Judging from the photo Marcus posted I think it is a pretty close match. I'll let you know when I hear from him.
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Checking in tobkob to see if we have confirmed a paint we can use on these bulbs?
Thanks!
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We do the all the time. Buy NOS clear 1157s (common) and paint with safety yellow available at any hardware store. Key is color is actually yellow not orange
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Here is what I found to be a very close match.
TOB
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Looks good...nice work.
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That's exactly what you need School bus yellow , safety yellow. Same color
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this is great! Thank you!
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I tried it today and they turned out great.
Thanks
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You're welcome. One think I should have pointed out is to let them dry thoroughly. I let them dry to the touch and tried them to see if the light was bright enough and they looked like the paint would burn off but after a couple of days I turned them on for about 45 minutes and all was ok.
TOB
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The park lamp assembly was preassembled bulb lens bezel before it was shipped to assembly plant so depending on the vendor make of which brand bulb they used GE 1157a vs H1157NA that are dated so depending on the bulb the GE bulb (more orangish yellow paint) always falls off the bulb more from age than the other (yellowish )paint bulb brand from what I see. You can tell by which vendor made parklight assembly by changes in the wireing harness as in 69 -70 mustang both years have 2 different wireing types.