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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 Mustang => Topic started by: m.b.spuur on March 27, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
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hello in my marti report is there standing my car came out with 7.35x14-4. what is size. thanks. mike
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I would guess that the -4 is 4-ply tire. So you need a 7.35 X 14 tire and the original would have been 4-ply.
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hello in my marti report is there standing my car came out with 7.35x14-4. what is size. thanks. mike
That is the size 7.35 x 14 inch. Standard sizing before we started using the P metric system
And agreed the -4 would be the 4 ply design. At least rated at 4 ply - sometimes there were able to get around the regulations and get 2 ply rated as 4 ply
Likely 4 layers of nylon if I recall correctly
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Mike the 7.35 tire today would be 205-70-14. Brian
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7.35x14-4 ply rated White sidewall rayon tires
That is what there standing in the marti report
Soo 205-70-14 Well the closest size we Can get today
What kind of tire make shut i Putt On
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Soo 205-70-14 Well the closest size we Can get today
No you should be able to find narrower tires
I see that 6.95 x 14 white walls are available from Kelsey
There are 7.00 x 14 white walls also but they have a odd pie edge to them
Coker has
- Firestone Bias Ply | Pie Crust | Narrow Whitewall 7.75 x 14
- various narrow white wall US Royal and Goodrich 6.95 & 7.75 x 14's
- If you want a modern tire they have a Maxxis Radial | Narrow Whitewall 225/75Rx14
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Mike the tire you are asking about, 7.35x14, was used for the 1968 390 V8 cars. Tire sizes for the 1969 cars were a different size and used a different designation. To be clear; are you doing a 68 or 69 car and what level of restoration are you trying to achieve or are you just looking for a tire that will fit ? Brian
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A modern, good, cheap radial is the Uniroyal Tiger Paw AWP II.
Nice whitewall, I have them on one of my cars.
US Royal and Dominion Royal both became Uniroyal in 1966.
Since it's a name that existed when your car was built, it's a reasonable replacement.
I mean at least it's in the ballpark unlike some Korean tire.
The Coker option is fine for a car that gets pushed on and off a trailer, but bias ply tires are lousy to drive on.
Real money for those Coker tires too.
I don't know how I didn't die back in the day ripping around on bias ply tires with drum brake big block cars.
If you're okay with Motorcraft parts on your car, then I'd say the Uniroyal's are a good choice, but if you want all Autolite, then Coker bias ply it is I guess.
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Given the site its important to keep the focus on the goal. ;)
I've always enjoyed the feel of bias plys on a vintage car. If I need performance tires then I need performance suspension, injection and mods. But of course then we have a completely different car.
From his post it appears he looking for the correct of very close to original size and style
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Brian here you Can see its a 1969
I just want too find The most originale tire for my car
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Well then as Jeff has pointed out there are several source's and option's you should check out. Brian
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I have the standard whells standing too my 1969 and i have. Been seen that there Are some difference On some of Them around the bolt holes . Wich one of Them is the Right too my 1969
1969 coupé F code San José
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That loose lug nuts reamed out rim is riveted construction and I think they were welded construction by 69.
There should be three nubs to secure the poverty caps.
I think they had "Ford" stamped in them by 69 instead of the earlier "FoMoCo".
Look for some date codes around the valve stem.
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i find a number, its not soo easy too see. i think there standing 12 G 3. i also find some color markings :)
butt what shut the right number be for the 1969
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Now that you posted some pictures let me see if I can help
1- First the four nub center would be correct for your 69. The change from three to four came between the 67 and 68 production years.
2- The red paint mark was the factory marking in 69 for a 14 x 6 steel rim. This was the same design as used in 68
Front and back of a 68 rim for your comparison
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-020417192903-692384.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-020417192902-6922657.jpeg)
And the face of a 69 steel rim for comparison also
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-020417192926-69241905.jpeg)
Both wheels are painted body color because the cars were originally ordered with the poverty/dog dish hubcaps
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Soo the 14 x 6 Well be correckt or 14 x 5
What about the whells was they Also painted the Body Color if the cars was With This spoke type wheel cover
What shut the Color be for the markings On the wheels if they was coming from San José
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Soo the 14 x 6 Well be correckt or 14 x 5
Is the wheel you posted from your car?
What about the whells was they Also painted the Body Color if the cars was With This spoke type wheel cover
Only cars ordered with the base dog dish hubcaps were body color on the outer face.
If they were ordered with the hubcaps you posted they would be semi-gloss black front and back
What shut the Color be for the markings On the wheels if they was coming from San José
Markings on the rims was done at the maker of the wheels - in your case likely Kellsey Hays not at the individual car assembly plant
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This pictures of Thes wheels i have Been posted is wheels i have Been buying from a guy there have Been takking Them of his 1969 convertble. I buy Them beacuse i want too Putt the original whells On it Again.
Butt is the 14 x6 or the 14 x 5 original size too my car
Butt the tires Company i have Been talking With saying they just Can find tire size 195/75 14 too me
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I don't know why your Marti doesn't say D78-14 tire since the switch over from calling them 7.35-14 happened in 1968.
Anyway, the optimum rim width for a D78-14 tire is 5".
Here's a good page with rim specs:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=MFrxUXmxQuwC&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=69+mustang+14x5+rim&source=bl&ots=ydCExH3nVh&sig=45i4oT2cLKgs2go6kr-85sIT1Ho&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS5M3UyIzTAhVO4WMKHRyLAbkQ6AEIRzAK#v=onepage&q=69%20mustang%2014x5%20rim&f=false
#6, #7 and #9 are 69 Mustang possibilities, but a D78-14 tire fits a 5" wide rim so I would say go with #6 with the white paint mark.
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I don't know why your Marti doesn't say D78-14 tire since the switch over from calling them 7.35-14 happened in 1968...
I would guess it doesn't say D78 x 14 since that is not the size that was standard or optional according to Ford.
Where id you find that Ford switched over to the D78 tires?
7.35 x 14 was a standard size used on 69 Mustangs as shown in the following original tire pressure decals from 69 Mustangs. In 70 they are listed next to E78 x 14's no D's and the 7.35 x 14 because optional on certain applications
On the 69 examples the standard tire is shown to the left and in a column to the right the option tire and size is shown
Three different versions used in 1969 production
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-050417035650.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-050417035719.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-050417035738.jpeg)
And a 1970 year version
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-050417035445.jpeg)
The link you supplied is a book likely assembled from the old (non Ford source) exchange manuals every wrecking yard had at one time showing what would fit or could be used to repair or replace. Think that is why we sometimes find American Motors stamped starters on soem Mustangs and other Fords today ;)
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Soo my 1969 coupé was probely born With 14 x 5 Rims Right
And you guys want too Putt the 14 x 6 On it This ones i have Been posted
Butt there is Also NOt the Big defrence too see On Them 😊
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Soo my 1969 coupé was probely born With 14 x 5 Rims Right
Correct - if you had the smallest tires on the car originally I think its safe to say it came with the smallest rims. But yes once on the car it will be hard to determine for a viewer to see the difference between the 5 & 6" with the hubcap installed in most cases
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Where did you find that Ford switched over to the D78 tires?
Nowhere, but when the 7.35-14 went extinct, there was no exact replacement, the closest in the industry would have been a D78-14.
It's easy to find optimum rim width info for a D78-14, but not a 7.35-14 for some reason.
Therefore it follows that the rim Mike is looking for is a 14X5.
The link you supplied is a book likely assembled from the old (non Ford source) exchange manuals every wrecking yard had at one time showing what would fit or could be used to repair or replace.
The left hand column is the switch-a-roo side, and the right hand column is the original fitment side.
So Mike's car should have the 14X5 rims then, and that would be with the white paint dob?
Seems like he wants to be exactly correct with the purchase and refinishing of his rims.
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Soo what shut the stabling be too identify a 14 x 5 rims in 1969 😊
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Wich Color markings shut the 14 x 5 rims have
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The MPC suggests that the 14 x5 69 wheel would have white daub(s) on the back side
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I Will lock after that, Thanks for help everyone 😊