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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: DKutz on April 18, 2017, 08:48:02 PM

Title: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: DKutz on April 18, 2017, 08:48:02 PM
So I just read somewhere that the grill that inserts into the louvers on a 65 Fastback were chromed from the factory.  I know the frame that holds the grill was chromed but when I took mine apart they seemed to be painted, so that is how I refinished mine.  How are these done?
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: Brian Conway on April 18, 2017, 10:24:38 PM
Pictures may help ?  Brian
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: DKutz on April 18, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
Yes... is the mesh chromed?  Or painted?
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: J_Speegle on April 19, 2017, 12:04:31 AM
Earlier thread I guess you already saw. Posted for others

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=9784.msg57753#msg57753 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=9784.msg57753#msg57753)



Chrome frames have the inner edges painted black along with the grills I believe. Sorry don't have one I can walk out to at the moment

Don't believe the ones above have the black painted on the individual bezels

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-180417230332.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/6/6-180417230308.jpeg)
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: DKutz on April 19, 2017, 01:05:37 AM
I am specially asking about the mesh.  Is it painted or chrome?
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: lancelot66 on April 19, 2017, 03:20:21 PM
Mesh should be left chrome/unpainted. The black plates in Brian's photo that fasten up behind the vent, once painted semi-gloss black, enhance the mesh appearance and make it stand out pretty well.
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: DKutz on April 19, 2017, 03:42:43 PM
well mine did not look like they were chromed, so I painted them.. Oh well something to mess with when I am bored.
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: lancelot66 on April 19, 2017, 03:53:59 PM
Referencing Jeff's two photo's, once you have the inside surface of each window painted, the chrome frame of each grill cleaned up (or re-chromed as some get pitted), when the sunshine hits them, they're pretty striking to see. It's tedious to tape them off to spray the black but it's worth it. A porch chair and a favorite beverage really goes along with the task too!
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: ChrisV289 on April 19, 2017, 09:34:36 PM
Don't know if these help or not.
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: DKutz on April 19, 2017, 10:49:00 PM
Referencing Jeff's two photo's, once you have the inside surface of each window painted, the chrome frame of each grill cleaned up (or re-chromed as some get pitted), when the sunshine hits them, they're pretty striking to see. It's tedious to tape them off to spray the black but it's worth it. A porch chair and a favorite beverage really goes along with the task too!

They are striking in the sun!  Even if the grille is painted!
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: awhtx on April 20, 2017, 01:08:14 AM
My September, 1964 San Jose Fastback had the entire area behind the louvers blacked out. The car had been repainted once but the louvers were not removed for the repaint. The "new" paint was peeling up right at the edge of the louvers. Original paint and repaint were both Tropical Turquoise.
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: J_Speegle on April 20, 2017, 04:21:25 PM
My September, 1964 San Jose Fastback had the entire area behind the louvers blacked out.........

Behind the louvers you have the thin sheet metal baffles for the scoops except for the most forward one, one mid way  and the rear most louvers that are built into the unibody are blacked out prior to the exterior paint being applied at least at San Jose

As far as the screens I don't have any pictures and I think I threw the last set out years ago but the exposed part of the screens may have been different than the original finish (hidden around the edges under the bezel) from sun exposure, scrubbing and cleaning. Seem to recall this issue years ago
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: DKutz on April 20, 2017, 05:41:02 PM
Pictures may help ?  Brian

Just noticed that these are NOS.  The screen does not look chromed to me...
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: J_Speegle on April 20, 2017, 05:54:44 PM
Just noticed that these are NOS.  ........

Yes and lack the paint details mentioned earlier

Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: lancelot66 on April 20, 2017, 06:14:44 PM
I think the screen material is zinc plated, now that I think back to when I touched up mine. I used a brass bristle brush and it cleaned them up really nice. They had a shine to them when finished but not like you'd have with chrome/fine steel wool. Naturally, I didn't take pictures at the time :(....
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: lancelot66 on April 20, 2017, 06:38:16 PM
and forgot to mention/confirm also that the areas behind the vents when I pulled them were originally blacked out, as was mentioned. I was the first to pull them out since new. Our car has only 1 re-paint (~1985) and it wasn't a particularly good one. There have been several touch up's over the years. There was a bunch of white splatters behind the vents on all the areas that were semi black, as well as the chrome bezels.
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: jtfx6552 on April 21, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
I think the screen material is zinc plated, now that I think back to when I touched up mine. I used a brass bristle brush and it cleaned them up really nice. They had a shine to them when finished but not like you'd have with chrome/fine steel wool. Naturally, I didn't take pictures at the time :(....

This is what I believe as well. Some sort of plain looking corrosion resistant finish, my vote is some sort of zinc.
Title: Re: 65 Fastback rear vent louver finish
Post by: stangerdude on April 24, 2017, 06:54:17 PM
Hi All! My experience form the last 30+ years of restoring these cars is that the screens are a anodized aluminum. The anodizing (over the years exposed to the sun) turns a whitish color resembling a painted look. I clean them up carefully with a soft to medium brass bristle brush to get the shine back in them which has worked quite well. With that being said... almost all cars I have done this to have been San Jose cars so other factories may have done them different. Also the recesses in the unibody that the louver assemblies fit into have varied in the blackout treatment from just sloppily brush painted black areas to the whole recess being painted black.  Just my experience! Your screens and opinions may vary. And yes....painting the black back into the chrome frame inserts is VERY time consuming but oh so worth it!!