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Offline socalgt

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'65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« on: May 12, 2017, 07:41:47 PM »
The car I'm in the process of purchasing has '65 styled, fully chromed rims.  I understand there is no physical difference, other than the '66 styled wheels are not chromed, but painted black where the trim rings cover....is that correct?  Assuming it is, to prepare '65(fully chromed) wheels to accept the '66 trim rings I thought of masking them off and Bede blasting the areas where the trim rings attach and painting them black there to allow them to grip and stay in place.  Any one tried this, or similar method to allow the '65 rims to accept the trim rings?

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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 10:49:00 PM »
There's more darker area on a 66 Style Steel Wheel than just the outer rim. The area where the five lug nuts go is a charcoal brown (it's darker) so the wheel stands out. A 65 wheel is argent in those areas. The trim ring should slip in but you may have too much chrome/argent visible. Bead blasting chrome is also a futile task. Chrome is hard. It may not work.
See attached for 66 Style Steel Wheels.
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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2017, 03:42:09 PM »
Thanks for the info....guess I'll find original '66 Styled wheels/trim rings and pass these along to someone needing '65 wheels.  I do have a set of original '67 styled wheels/trim rings, which,  although incorrect, will fit...just be a bit wider (5 1/2")

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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2017, 04:38:11 PM »
I do have a set of original '67 styled wheels/trim rings, which,  although incorrect, will fit...just be a bit wider (5 1/2")
That's what I have on my 66 Hardtop, with P225/60R14 rubber. It's difficult to tell the difference unless there's a 66 Wheel close by.
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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2017, 08:24:24 PM »
Before you change out the rims make sure of the date of your 1966 Mustang and be sure the rims are not original to the car. The argent to charcoal was a running change as well, 65s did have charcoal inserts. Also, early 66 Mustang did come with full chrome rims. Charles can give a more exact date but I believe the trim rings / black painted rims were a running change around the end of November 1965, at least at the San Jose plant.
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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2017, 12:34:02 AM »
Before you change out the rims make sure of the date of your 1966 Mustang and be sure the rims are not original to the car. The argent to charcoal was a running change as well, 65s did have charcoal inserts. Also, early 66 Mustang did come with full chrome rims. Charles can give a more exact date but I believe the trim rings / black painted rims were a running change around the end of November 1965, at least at the San Jose plant.
This is the original spare from my Oct 65 San Jose K Fastback with the original dual red line tire and original Style Steel wheel. The other wheels are the same, trim ring, charcoal paint.
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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 04:24:55 PM »
Along these same lines, has anyone re-chromed a complete original 66 Steel Style wheel and then as the OP mentioned, only have them buff and polish the center area and then paint the outer areas black over the chrome to match the originals? I know you can't take these apart and also would need to add back the argent color after everything. But I was curious if anyone's done this to a set of originals to restore them, meaning ofd course if they were in decent shape to begin with without major pitting in the chrome.

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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 04:52:03 PM »
Along these same lines, has anyone re-chromed a complete original 66 Steel Style wheel and then as the OP mentioned, only have them buff and polish the center area and then paint the outer areas black over the chrome to match the originals? I know you can't take these apart and also would need to add back the argent color after everything. But I was curious if anyone's done this to a set of originals to restore them, meaning ofd course if they were in decent shape to begin with without major pitting in the chrome.
It's expensive. Try http://www.wheeltechniques.com/ I've not used them but know of several that have and were satisfied.
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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 06:16:25 PM »
It's expensive. Try http://www.wheeltechniques.com/ I've not used them but know of several that have and were satisfied.
Jim

Hmmm, interesting, never really thought about a shop doing the whole job, I'll have to reach out to them for a quote to see. I would assume they send out for the re-chroming work since no where in California does chrome anymore because of the regulations, that's why I was thinking of doing everything else but the chroming.

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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 08:32:25 PM »
I would assume they send out for the re-chroming work since no where in California does chrome anymore because of the regulations, that's why I was thinking of doing everything else but the chroming.
Jason,
I know of at least four chrome shops in the San Jose area that do everything right here. One shop owner did tell me that it costs him about $7000 a month to be in compliance with California regulations. A couple of other shops send their chrome to the Central Valley, less regulation costs, lower labor costs. It's my understanding that in Southern California, chrome work is done in Mexico (Gee, I wonder why?).
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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2017, 01:55:52 PM »
Just for future readers of this thread, the shop Jim recommended doesn't do any re-chroming work anymore. I talked to a guy on the phone and all they do now is straightening, polishing, and painting of wheels.

Jim, I'll PM you for the info you have on other shops and who you think does solid re-chroming work in our area.

Thanks,

Jason

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Re: '65 styled wheel vs. '66 styled wheels
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2017, 07:26:22 PM »
Just for future readers of this thread, the shop Jim recommended doesn't do any re-chroming work anymore. I talked to a guy on the phone and all they do now is straightening, polishing, and painting of wheels.
Jason,
Noted. Thanks.
I'll PM you for the info you have on other shops and who you think does solid re-chroming work in our area.
Two of the other shop do bumpers only. In getting the phone number for a third, their website says they went out of business on 8/3/17.
In talking with another Mustang restorer, he says try in the central valley. That's Jeff's territory.
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