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65 Running Changes Main Thread - San Jose Findings
« on: December 02, 2018, 08:19:38 PM »
Thought I might as well start a thread to collect the findings of different threads related to running changes in one place like I started for the 66 San Jose built cars. Will continue to add suggestions for individual running changes here in this thread while will be the basis for related link threads focused on each individual subject. Remember to keep these 65 San Jose focused here please note 64 1/2 cars or ones from other plants.

To keep the thread from getting too long or out of hand please don't post that you found this version or that on car 5R07C2345xx (for example). We can save that for the research period and for the individual change threads. Just trying to identify the features during this first effort. Will break out the findings by plant of course.  Hope we can work through other plants also. Since this is likely to get to be a very long list I think that unlike the 66 version I will break the lists out by general area of the car to keep it a little more organized. We'll see how that works.

If you post suggestions for items to be included I will delete your posting after it has been incorporated rather than let the add to post run on for pages ;)


Drivetrain-

Engine - Most of these are more related to when the engine was assembled and shipped than to a specific date the change would have taken affect at each assembly plant. Those details can be found in the book Mustang and Ford Small Block V8. But to help we'll list a few more commonly asked and those visible on a fully assembled engine

E1- Water pump and timing cover - Change from aluminum water pump to cast iron version. Change is identified by a L-8 on the aluminum engine ID tag. rather than by VIN. Change appears to have taken place at the engine plant the end of May to first part of June 65 which then made their way to the car plants and into new vehicles.

E2- Road draft tube usage - Change of location of draft tube and transition from the tube to PCV. The later is likely connected to the emission requirements of the delivery DSO but discussions and study will follow. Being an engine plant detail the thread below will be shared in all three Running Change threads
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=1927.0

E3- Intake Manifold Gasket - Changes in the design of the whitish paper side gaskets and cork end gaskets.

E4-

E5- 


Engine Compartment-

EC1- Switch from early shock tower decal  (with circles), to later, more common Autolite - Survey started
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=21645

EC2- Heater- 3 wire motor to 2 wire motor and different control switches. -

EC3- Screw in hood bumpers - Design changes appears to be between 5R20744x and 5R21734x Approximately between late April 65 and very early May 65.
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=24973.msg155217#msg155217

EC4- Voltage regulator cover design change. Units built after October 26, 1964
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6957.msg39420#msg39420

EC5- Starter cable route for K code equipped cars - According to a TSB Article the change too place on Oct. 15, 64
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13862.msg85973#msg85973

EC6- Convertible stiffening braces - TSB article identifies the addition of an brace starting Nov 11, 1964. The article identifies the steps and parts needed to add the brace to earlier built cars without the brace for service departments following customer complaints. Related to interior change/addition shown below in item #I18
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2250.msg11509#msg11509

EC7- Hood bumpers attached to the radiator support brackets/mountings. Change from style with Phillips head visible to full rubber covered bumper. Change appears to have taken place during the last week or two of April 1965
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=24973.new#new

EC8- Horn wire at radiator support. Visible through grill the somewhat bright horn wire was blacked out using firewall sealant or in some periods black paint. In general terms the wire color change took place around the end of Jan 65 and the first week of Feb. Coating of the wire to hide it from being seen through the grill looks to have taken place mid March 65
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=25108.new#new

EC9- Starter solenoid versions by main body color and bracket markings.

EC10- Power steering pump - Change from the earlier Eaton pump to the Ford style pump. Change appears to have taken place during the first few weeks of April 1965
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=28702.msg174920#msg174920

EC11-

EC12-

EC13-

EC14- 



Exterior-

EX1- Exterior beltline. Black bead fuzzy door/qtr strips to non-painted plated? -
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2456.0

EX2- Windshield wiper posts. Screw on bezels to no bezels - Appears to have taken place between mid April and first part of May 65
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=22746.new#new

EX3- Convertible top latch mechanism. Pinned attaching shaft to threaded attaching shaft -

EX4- Convertible top side rail  -
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=4491.0

EX5- Rear valance screw style  - Please designate head type and location since these were installed at two different points in the assembly line
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=29519.new#new

EX6- Hood - Forward Corner/lip change -

EX7- Hood - Frame crumple reliefs on leading edge change -

EX8- Door hinges - Squared verses beveled edge
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23671.new#new

EX9- GT Emblem - Changed from plastic to metal and ceramic -

EX10- Gas tank filler neck - Change from all oval attachment holes to style with one round hole for gas cap retainer

EX11-


Interior-

I1- Defroster duct hoses- round to square versions - Change over around Feb 9 1965 to Feb 18 1965. Projected build dates used.
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=19342.15

I2- Carpet - Toe pad -

I3- Carpet - Sill plate vinyl to full width -

I4- Carpet - Fastback rear corner carpets -

I5- Sill plate - Square to rounded corner version - Currently have the change likely taking place between the 5R175262 to 5R180051 production period
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23169.new#new

I6- Fastback trap door bumper changes - Bumper, mounting location and reinforcement was changed on March 1, 1965 according to TSB article dated March 29th
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?action=post;msg=24095;topic=4339.0

I7- Fastback interior rear trim end caps - Narrow metal trim strip between the upper and lower trim panels at the rear of the door opening end.

I8- Fastback L shaped panel bumpers and rear receiver bracket/pocket - Still undetermined but related thread
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=11883

I9- Console glove compartment light location - back panel or light on top -

I10- Console rear floor light. Plastic to metal frame -

I11- Glove box light switch, big early pin to smaller pin -

I12- Clip on door window cranks to screw on window cranks - Change appears between mid Feb 1965 (approx 5R18850x) and mid March 65 (approx 5R19546x)
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=25687.new#new

I13- Door panels. Flat (lightly padded)  to padded design. -

I14- Coupe headliner color -

I15- Fresh air vent knob - Knob with white A to no A. Based only on scheduled build date information the change appears to have taken place the end of Oct 1964
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2021.msg52861#msg52861

I16- Fastback coat hooks - Factory started out production with no coat hooks and later added them to fastbacks after many months. Currently it appears that the change from the earlier to the later version took place between approximately the end of April 1965 and possibly middle of May 1965
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23136.new#new

I17- Convertible underdash stiffening braces - TSB article identifies the addition of an brace starting Nov 11, 1964. The article identifies the steps and parts needed to
       add the brace to earlier built cars without the brace for service departments following customer complaints
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=248.msg1160#msg1160

I18- Firewall pad differences related to the cut/punch outs.
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=5773.new#new

I19- Main Dash Wire Loom. Change from early integral windshield wiper wiring to separate.

I20- Brake and Clutch pedal pads - Change from earlier rounded edges to the later with the provision for the addition of the stainless steel trim that came with the deluxe interior trim

I21-

I22-

Trunk-

T1- Spare tie mount/attachment bracket - Carriage bolt/Slotted bracket or J hook/ Loop bracket - Currently based only on scheduled build dates the change took place around Jan 19, 65
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=19402.new#new

T2- Jack instruction sticker/decal - Possible - still researching

T3- Fastback trunk hinge bushing - With or without nylon/plastic bushing on passenger side hinge arm. Change appears to have taken place between last week March to late in April.
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=27123.new#new

T4- Fastback trunk spring cage - Drivers side with "cage" or no "cage". Change appears to have taken place between the first of October and third week or so of that month. At or about
       the same time as the design change of the trunk lid spring listed below.
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23557.new#new

T5- Fastback trunk spring end - Passenger end turn inward verses outward. Change appears to have taken place between the first of October and third week or so of that month.  At or
       about
       the same time as the design change of the trunk lid spring listed below.
       http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23557.new#new

T-6- Fastback trunk driver's side spring retainer - Driver's side trunk spring electrical clip installation, resulting in it being painted body color. Change appears to have taken place between
       midway through February 1965 and the end of March 1965 at San Jose.
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=27121.msg166396#msg166396

T-7- Fastback trunk hinge arm - Passenger side spring arm. Single or double thickness. Change appears to have likely taken place during Jan production.
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=27122.new#new

T-8- Fastback trunk hinge spring arm stop - Passenger side.  Change from welded on stops to integrated design.
       https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=27124.new#new

T-9-

T-10-

T-11-



Undercarriage & Suspension-

US1- Undercarriage coating color (firewall rearward) - Reference 1965 San Jose Undercarriage article located in Library

US2- Upper control arms- Upper bushings. Without zerk holes or with plugs

US3- Ball joints with and without slots at end of shaft

US4- Rear emergency brake cable routing. Between frame and floor or between frame and rear spring. In process.
         http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=21056.new#new

US5- Design of the main floor. Earlier design included a tunnel between the floor and the forward section of the rear frame rail to allow the passage of the emergency brake cable from the inside of the frame rail to the outer wheel well section.  This change followed the change in routing during very late 65 production but did not coincide with the change listed above.

US6- Attaching hardware for brake and fuel line along driveline tunnel. Screws or butterfly clamps

US7- Rear backing plate knock-outs for brake adjusting hole - Started during the last few months of 65 production. Ford TSB #327 states the change took place during
       July 65 car production.
         http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=15041.msg93741#msg93741

US8- Dual exhaust - Change in design and parts used between 65, Arvinode and what was referred to as 65 1/2 style.

US9-



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