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Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« on: March 07, 2017, 01:20:24 AM »
MODEL  /  CHANGE LEVEL  /  DATE (YEAR/MONTH/WEEK)  /  TRANSMISSION  /  NOTES

C4GF-AE   B   4CE   M/T   
C4GF-AE   B   4DA   M/T   
C4GF-AE   B   4DC   M/T   
C4GF-AE   B   4EA   M/T   
C4GF-AE   B   4FB   M/T   
C4GF-AE   B   4FD   M/T   
C5ZF-C   A   4GA   M/T   
C5ZF-J   A   4GD   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-J   A   4HB   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-J   A   4HC   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-J   A   4HD   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-J   A   4JB   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-C   A   4JC   M/T   
C5ZF-J   A   4JE   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-C   B   4LB   M/T   
C5ZF-J   B   4MA   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-J   B   4MB   M/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-E   A   4MD   M/T   
C5ZF-L   A   5AB   M/T   
C5ZF-L   A   5AD   M/T   
C5ZF-E   A   5BA   M/T   
C5ZF-C   B   5BB   M/T   
C5ZF-E   B   5CB   M/T   
C5ZF-E   B   5CD   M/T   
C5ZF-C   B   5CE   M/T   
C5ZF-C   C   5DB   M/T   
C5ZF-C   C   5EA   M/T   
C5ZF-C   C   5EB   M/T   
C5ZF-C   C   5EC   M/T   
C5ZF-C   D   5FC   M/T   
C5ZF-E   C   5FC   M/T   
C5ZF-E   C   5FD   M/T   

C4ZF-C   A   4CA   A/T   
C4ZF-C   A   4CC   A/T   
C4GF-AF   B   4EA   A/T   
C4GF-AF   B   4EC   A/T   
C4GF-AF   B   4ED   A/T   
C4GF-AF   B   4FD   A/T   
C4GF-AF   B   4FE   A/T   
C5ZF-D   A   4GA   A/T   
C5ZF-K   A   4GC   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-D   A   4GD   A/T   
C5ZF-K   A   4HA   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-K   A   4HB   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-K   A   4HC   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-K   A   4JA   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-D   B   4KD   A/T   
C5ZF-F   A   4MA   A/T   
C5ZF-K   B   4MB   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-K   B   4MC   A/T   Road Draft
C5ZF-F   A   4MD   A/T   
C5ZF-M   A   5AA   A/T   
C5ZF-F   A   5AD   A/T   
C5ZF-M   A   5AD   A/T   
C5ZF-F   B   5CB   A/T   
C5ZF-F   B   5CD   A/T   
C5ZF-D   B   5CE   A/T   
C5ZF-D   B   5DA   A/T   
C5ZF-D   B   5DB   A/T   
C5ZF-D   D   5EB   A/T   
C5ZF-D   D   5FE   A/T
            
C6ZF-A   A   5GC   M/T   
C6ZF-A   A   5HA   M/T   
C6ZF-A   A   5HB   M/T   
C6ZF-A   A   5HC   M/T   
C6ZF-A   A   5HD   M/T   
C6ZF-D   B   5KA   M/T   TE
C6ZF-A   B   5KB   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   5KC   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   5LA   M/T   
C6ZF-D   B   5LB   M/T   TE
C6ZF-A   B   5MB   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6AD   M/T   
C6ZF-D   B   6BB   M/T   TE
C6ZF-A   B   6CB   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6CD   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6DD   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6ED   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6FC   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6FD   M/T   
C6ZF-A   B   6KD   M/T   
                        
C6ZF-B   A   5GA   A/T   
C6ZF-B   A   5GC   A/T   
C6ZF-E   A   5HA   A/T   TE
C6ZF-B   A   5HD   A/T   
C6ZF-B   A   5HE   A/T   
C6ZF-B   A   5JC   A/T   
C6ZF-E   B   5JD   A/T   TE
C6ZF-E   B   5LB   A/T   TE
C6ZF-E   B   6AA   A/T   TE
C6ZF-E   B   6BA   A/T   TE
C6ZF-B   B   6BD   A/T   
C6ZF-E   B   6BD   A/T   TE
C6ZF-E   C   6CA   A/T   TE
C6ZF-B  B  6CB  A/T   
C6ZF-E   C   6CE   A/T   TE
C6ZF-E   C   6DC   A/T   TE
C6ZF-B     B      6EB   A/T
C6ZF-E   C   6EB   A/T   TE
C6ZF-B   B   6FB   A/T   
C6ZF-E   C   6GB   A/T   TE

C4OF-AL   A   4DE   M/T   HIPO   
C3OF-AJ   A   4ED   M/T   HIPO
C4OF-AL   A   4FB   M/T   HIPO   
C4OF-AL   A   4GA  M/T  HIPO
C5OF-L   A   4HD   M/T   HIPO   Road Draft
C5OF-L   A   4JD   M/T   HIPO   Road Draft
C4OF-AL   B   4KB   M/T   HIPO   
C5OF-L   A   4KB   M/T   HIPO   Road Draft
C4OF-AL   B   4KD   M/T   HIPO   
C5OF-L   A   5AB   M/T   HIPO   Road Draft
C4OF-AL   B   5BB   M/T   HIPO   
C5OF-L   A   5BB   M/T   HIPO   Road Draft
C4OF-AL   B   5CA   M/T   HIPO   
C5OF-J   A   5CC   M/T   HIPO   
C5OF-J   A   5CE   M/T   HIPO   
C5OF-J   B   5FE   M/T   HIPO   

C6ZF-C   A   5HE   M/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-C   A   5JC   M/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-C   B   5JD   M/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-C   B   6BD   M/T   HIPO   
               
C6ZF-F   A   5GD   A/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-F   A   5HE   A/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-F   A   5JC   A/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-F   B   6HD   A/T   HIPO   
C6ZF-F   B   7AC   A/T   HIPO

* I have verified each of the 126 tags above.

** I'm always looking for new examples. I have spotted "reproduction" tags never produced by FoMoCo (date codes, change level to date code, and more) so need to visually see the tag to verify it is original to add to list.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2017, 12:13:40 AM by 65Autolite »

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Re: Autolite 1.08 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 01:47:17 AM »
I made this chart to better understand the application of:

* C5ZF-L (M/T) and C5ZF-M (A/T) tags. It appears the -L and -M tags only carried stamped dates of January 1965 and there were two runs (dated tags) of each.

* C5ZF-C vs. C5ZF-E (M/T PCV) and C5ZF-D vs. C5ZF-F (A/T PCV) tags. Best I can figure out GO BY DATE CODE on what would be correct. There appear to be patters of time each was tagged (with exception of a C5ZF-C dated 5BB).

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Re: Autolite 1.08 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 10:43:12 AM »
Thanks for posting, this is very useful.
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Re: Autolite 1.08 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2017, 10:55:58 AM »
Thanks for posting, this is very useful.

+1 Thanks very much!

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Re: Autolite 1.08 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 10:59:23 AM »
Yes, thank you.  Maybe this should be put up in the library?
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Re: Autolite 1.08 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2017, 02:27:29 PM »
Excellent research! I'm trying to understand the change level. Does this refer to improvements made to the carbs ?? So sometimes the change level would progress with the date of the carbs?? ie. a change from A to B where the B change level would always have a later date than A??  ???
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: Autolite 1.08 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2017, 05:05:23 PM »
Thats it. The Change Level is used to indicate the revision the carb. is on specific to each model.

For example sizing of the:
Accelerator Pump Jet
High Speed Bleed
Idle Air Bleed
Power valve flow holes
Booster tubes
and more...

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Re: Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 04:17:23 PM »
Here's the tag from my San Jose 66 K.
Carb tag - C6ZF F
Rev - A
Date - 5GD
Eng tag - 289 C 66 9 (oval Ford r)
5-H 246-S
Eng assy - 5H23
Is this enough "authentication"?
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Re: Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 12:09:01 AM »
Give me a tag I don't already have recorded  ;D
Merely giving credence and confirmation to your previous. ;)
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 12:49:34 AM »
Merely giving credence and confirmation to your previous. ;)
Jim

Thanks! They're rare!

Bob Mannel's book lists the C6ZF-F (page C-8) as a service replacement, however from what I've seen the C6ZF-C was the 289 HiPo service replacement from 1966 - 1969. That is based on a NOS example in Ford box with '66 dated tag, used with a '68 dated tag, and used with a '69 dated tag. The original factory '69 dated tag was rectangular shaped AUTOLITE.

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Re: Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 01:02:23 PM »
Ford Car Parts (the infamous MPC), 75 ed, indicates that the service part number for both MT and AT cars is C4OZ-9510-F (Motorcraft CA-351) which was replaced by C4OZ-9510-G (Motorcraft CA-351-A). That's factory installed C6ZF-9510-C and C6ZF-9510-F. All this means is that the replacement stock number box (or paper tag) had an item inside that would work in your application. What has been found over the years as a NOS replacement is a variety of part numbers, as service stock number C4OZ-9510-G, also replaced the early Fairlane (63-65) and Mustang HP carburetors. Remember, Ford was not building Concourse grade cars. Ford dealer service departments were the same.
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Re: Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 04:34:59 PM »
I'm trying to identify the tag date/s when the brass fittings at fuel inlets were phased out on early models (before seat was integrated into body). That of course requires people with early models that haven't had tags swapped for input. Any help appreciated!


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Re: Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2017, 12:10:36 AM »
I'm trying to identify the tag date/s when the brass fittings at fuel inlets were phased out on early models (before seat was integrated into body).
Would this also include 2100 models as well? And 1100. I would assume that Ford would do the change over at the same time, or close anyway.
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Re: Autolite 4100 TAGS - MASTER LIST
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 10:52:26 AM »
Neat original post.

I have a few HP289 carburetors if you are interested in images of their assembly tags.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2017, 01:22:25 PM »
Neat original post.

I have a few HP289 carburetors if you are interested in images of their assembly tags.

HiPo  ;D Now we're talking!  ;)

Any chance you have some not on the list?