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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: ceggar on June 18, 2014, 01:38:35 PM
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I noticed Alloy Metal sells a headlight extension wire for a 67 with a brown plug and one with a red plug. Is there a difference between the two? thanks
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I noticed Alloy Metal sells a headlight extension wire for a 67 with a brown plug and one with a red plug. Is there a difference between the two? thanks
Not that I am aware of. They both were used . My suggestion would be to look at your headlight harness and see which corresponding color is there and then make your choice for the extension based on that.
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The only difference is in the plastic molding of the connectors. For some reason, there were two different colors those years. Perhaps different vendors?
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I may be wrong and I am sure some one will tell me if I am, but most cars that I have seen that were red were 67s and the ones that have the brown are 68s.
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I think both colors were used in 67 however I have only seen brown for 68
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Thanks for the info. Just something else to confuss us or at least me!
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In any case the color you choose should match the other half of the plug on the under the hood harness.
Marty
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==> car in question is my 67 SJ Fastback in Sig <==
As I was painfully cleaning each and every wire that's visible in my main front lighting (and other stuff like regulator, horns, turn signals, etc) wire harness and re-wrapping it to boot, I noticed that the red headlight connectors were stained from years of being in contact with undercoating. I couldn't remove the stains. I decided I needed a vinyl/rubber/plastic paint to remedy things.
In a HD run I went to my favorite spray paint section (Rust-oleum) and bought a few reds whose cap was close to my headlight harness red plug.
I ended up with Rustoleum Colonial Red Satin 249082 as shown in the attached pic. This paint is plastic rated and the plug remained flexible after painting (and clear) without cracking.
Cleaning the harness plug is mandatory and use a real aggressive reducer (not paint thinner). Allow all of the reducer to outgas or put the plug under a heat lamp to dry it.
Tape off the wires and apply a really thin coat. It should take little paint. It covered my black stains with only a light coat. Light is better so that the paint doesn't crack on install.
The plug here was deemed to be a bit shiny (even being a satin), so a light mist coat of Rust-oleum "Matte Clear Enamel" 285093 toned it down a bit.
Great looking plugs are mine!
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I have been told that the brown ones were 67 and the red 68 but I don't believe its that simple.I have wrecked numerous 67's and I believe I only have 1 brown harness all the rest (6or8) are red.The majority of the cars I stripped were SJ cars.I would tend to believe its a vendor thing....JMO
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I have been told that the brown ones were 67 and the red 68 but I don't believe its that simple.I have wrecked numerous 67's and I believe I only have 1 brown harness all the rest (6or8) are red.The majority of the cars I stripped were SJ cars.I would tend to believe its a vendor thing....JMO
I believe you were told wrong. Both brown and red were used in 67 at SJ at least. I would be surprised if the other plants didn't followed the trend . The extension should match the color of plug on the headlight harness. I do suspect a vendor issue but have only noticed the red variation on the later produced 67 cars. For 68 I have only seen the brown color plug.
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I believe you were told wrong. Both brown and red were used in 67 at SJ at least. I would be surprised if the other plants didn't followed the trend . The extension should match the color of plug on the headlight harness. I do suspect a vendor issue but have only noticed the red variation on the later produced 67 cars. For 68 I have only seen the red color plug.
This would need to include my 11/2/66 built example also if you call it "later built".
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This would need to include my 11/2/66 built example also if you call it "later built".
Well that's not going to work but I think Bob is sharing his observations that earlier in the year his findings have been mixed (red and brown) transitioning to all red later in the production year.
Not sure how many pictures I have of that tight area of the car but will try and take a look to see if I can add anything to the discussion
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I'll add my $0.03 (not inflation adjusted): I have many examples of both brown and red headlight plugs for 1967. I believe it was a manufacturer/vendor thing as well.
It causes me headaches when I have to dig through the pile to find matching colored extensions if a customer requests that I provide extensions.
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Well that's not going to work but I think Bob is sharing his observations that earlier in the year his findings have been mixed (red and brown) transitioning to all red later in the production year.
Not sure how many pictures I have of that tight area of the car but will try and take a look to see if I can add anything to the discussion
Sorry, meant to add that my 11/2/66 built San Jose has red connectors so if it is an "early/late" thing, there is one for the database of examples
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It causes me headaches when I have to dig through the pile to find matching colored extensions if a customer requests that I provide extensions.
You mean like me? ;)
When I needed the pair on my main harness I asked midlife to provide me with the red versions to replace my red versions.
Didn't want any concours judge looking intently at my mismatched plugs and giving me grief! Or having someone come along later and finding I had done it incorrectly!
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Nah, you're more like a PITA. Just kidding...
I like helping out the concours crowd when I can. One man's junk is another man's treasure, and I do have a lot of junk!
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Didn't want any concours judge looking intently at my mismatched plugs and giving me grief! [/quote]
We do not give any grief! Only deductions, what you do with them is up to you. LOL ;D
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I never said I believed it..Just dug through the pics of my 67 as it is stored elsewhere and it has red plugs.It was actually built sept 2 1966.(101325)
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We do not give any grief! Only deductions ...
I think you guys need to create Judges buttons that say (I'll paraphrase):
We don't give grief! Only deductions!
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I think you guys need to create Judges buttons that say (I'll paraphrase):
We don't give grief! Only deductions!
I want to be sure I was not misunderstood. I was kidding around, but seriously I judge because I enjoy the cars and helping the owners make them better. The same reason I and others post here.
There are some owners that think they deserve a participation award because their car is pretty, not correct. LOL
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I want to be sure I was not misunderstood. I was kidding around, but seriously I judge because I enjoy the cars and helping the owners make them better. The same reason I and others post here.
There are some owners that think they deserve a participation award because their car is pretty, not correct. LOL
+1 . The last thing in the world I want to do is discourage someone. Satisfaction helping others achieve a goal and preserving the marque is the reward.
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+1 . The last thing in the world I want to do is discourage someone. Satisfaction helping others achieve a goal and preserving the marque is the reward.
Yes it is. Why I like this forum so much. a.) the willingness for offering help, b.) the ability to learn how to improve our projects, c.) the fact that old folklore myths can be broken with the combined wisdom, d.) the end result being an opportunity to preserve a mark in history.
I am sure more than just these items listed but as long as we maintain a good sense of direction in the discussion, often "New Knowledge" comes out. Case in point, the direction this thread has gone might lead to a better understanding of what color plug in the headlamp harness extension AND how it would typically be combined with the same color under hood connector. Perhaps date ranges may be set...perhaps not. Either way, known "original" examples may add to a form of discovery. All of it is great!
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I have an odd, dry and sarcastic sense of humor.
I appreciate people who give their time freely and add to the hobby.
But still, I thought it was funny. Your mileage may vary.
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I just realized I have mixed my own information up..My 67 does have red plugs and my Dec 67 built 68 does have brown plugs.I had it backwards...My mistake
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I just realized I have mixed my own information up..My 67 does have red plugs and my Dec 67 built 68 does have brown plugs.I had it backwards...My mistake
Now I don't feel so bad. I too had something backwards in that I have seen red and brown in 67 but I have only observed brown in 68 . I had said red in a previous post that I have amended for clarity. That is not to say there were no red plug 68 headlight harness out there. I would not be surprised if one didn't pop up. It seems most logical that it was a vendor difference IMO.
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pewp!
I just checked my Alloy Metal underhood harness and it has BROWN plugs on it! (my extensions are RED as I said earlier) Looks like I am doing some dying on my plugs. My local True Value hardware store says they have the Colonial Red in stock... ??? :( >:( ::) :P :-\