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Offline Oz390

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2014, 07:09:33 PM »
Interesting, learn new things all the time...  Thanks Marty!
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2014, 08:59:43 PM »
Additional details on the trunk lamp power feed wire running from the driver's side hinge area to the decklid.

A drawing with dimensions, as well as related pictures are attached.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2014, 09:04:45 PM by 67gta289 »
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2014, 09:38:51 PM »
Very nice effort and a great addition to the thread John
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2016, 06:03:53 AM »
Has anyone ever had Jim @Alloy Metal make this wire up for them yet?

Has anyone found a source to a suitable grommet for the trunk lid yet?

Has anyone found a source of the wire retainer next to the grommet yet?

Richard Urch

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2016, 03:39:51 PM »
Just to let you know, my early '67 GT 500 had a separate wire that was covered with a braided cover. It it is taped about every 14" to the tail lamp harness. My original was used by Alloy Metal Products to make the trunk lamp wiring, not to mention the right side fastback courtesy lamp harness.

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2016, 10:29:40 PM »
Has anyone ever had Jim @Alloy Metal make this wire up for them yet?

Has anyone found a source to a suitable grommet for the trunk lid yet?

Has anyone found a source of the wire retainer next to the grommet yet?
Reply #3 last pic has a grommet which looks to be the same as the one that  came on my 67 cougar with trunk light.  Is the mustang light a mercury type switch too ?
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2016, 10:48:11 PM »
Reply #3 last pic has a grommet which looks to be the same as the one that  came on my 67 cougar with trunk light.  Is the mustang light a mercury type switch too ?

Yes, mercury light with a small "m"...very similar light & likely uses the same grommet.

I talked with Jim of Alloy Metal today and he said they offer (through their vendors) a wire for a supply line to the trunk light. His description (claimed based upon Ford engineering drawings) do not exactly match up to the decriptions or images shared earlier in this thread. The description also does not sound like a match up to the assembly manual drawings either. No mention of having seen Keith's wire earlier. The basic difference seems to be  the on the trunk connection end. That end is described as having a trio-female bullet connector. The description of the foward end is a match and the length is spot on (+1 inch) to what John measured. Their offering is not a braided covering wire.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2016, 06:17:58 AM by 67gtasanjose »
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2016, 11:45:59 PM »
Funny, John would forget considering he made it  and had me send the sample because he had never seen one. He didn't charge me a dime because I supplied the sample wire and the right side courtesy from the dash to the quarter lamp where the folding seat is. However, I guess considering his business partner had died just a couple months prior and he was buried with work, it happens. He a actually sent my wiring to someone else and I got their wiring, which the two of us just sent the wiring to the other. 
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2016, 06:11:43 AM »
Funny, John would forget considering he made it  and had me send the sample because he had never seen one. He didn't charge me a dime because I supplied the sample wire and the right side courtesy from the dash to the quarter lamp where the folding seat is. However, I guess considering his business partner had died just a couple months prior and he was buried with work, it happens. He a actually sent my wiring to someone else and I got their wiring, which the two of us just sent the wiring to the other. 
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Ahhh! You were dealing with John? I talked to Jim. I'll be back in touch with him next week to see if we can work something out. (Jim taking several days off) Maybe after speaking with John, and with a second request for this style wire a change in production may occur? We'll see.

Not to derail the thread but I also have interest in a correct hood turn signal wire harness as well. I have started another thread about it just in case there is a lot of input over the known differences. (it would be nice to get the early version of that harness reproduced too. At this time, it seems only the later version is out there)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13686.0
« Last Edit: May 11, 2016, 07:26:32 AM by 67gtasanjose »
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2017, 09:08:22 AM »
Has anyone ever had Jim @Alloy Metal make this wire up for them yet?

Has anyone found a source to a suitable grommet for the trunk lid yet?

Has anyone found a source of the wire retainer next to the grommet yet?
Has anyone ever had Jim @Alloy Metal make this wire up for them yet?
YES, he built one for me though he insisted it didn't come with the extra connection at the A-pillar end but I am OK with what he made otherwise...pretty close ;)

Has anyone found a source to a suitable grommet for the trunk lid yet?
NO! I am still looking for one to attempt making a copy of it (wishing to make a mold out of an original) if anyone has one I can borrow for several weeks. You WILL get your original back (and a Reproduction also if you lend it to me)


Has anyone found a source of the wire retainer next to the grommet yet?
NO! But I NOW have an original one in hand to have a cast made from it. I am hoping to use this "mold" out of to build new ones. Thes wire retainers were originally molded directly onto the braided-covered wires of not only the trunk light feed wire (at trunk lid) but also onto the underhood lamp hood lamp wire too!. I am hoping to locate that grommet and have a mold cast from the two components. Any help along these line would be great! 

ALSO...if anyone has ever tried making such molds or know if any vendor doing such mold-making for the hobby, it would be great to hear of somebody willing to help me with these two tasks.
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2017, 12:04:17 PM »
Attached are pictures of an NOS one that I picked up for my '67 in the 80's. Keeping in mind that this was a Service Part, it still shows twon things that have been discussed ; First, you can see that the wire has a braided type of insulation. And second, that it was only long enough to go from the mounting location to the grommet hole where it connected to the wire that goes on to the A pillar (confirming John's pictures).

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2017, 12:26:26 PM »
Attached are pictures of an NOS one that I picked up for my '67 in the 80's. Keeping in mind that this was a Service Part, it still shows twon things that have been discussed ; First, you can see that the wire has a braided type of insulation. And second, that it was only long enough to go from the mounting location to the grommet hole where it connected to the wire that goes on to the A pillar (confirming John's pictures).

Bob
It is interesting to see the orange obsolete sticker on the box. That is the tell tale mark used by the late great parts purveyor Ron Charney RIP. He would apply those to let people know that the part would be hard to find rare and no longer serviced by Ford. The 80's and 90's was his hay days. Fond memories .
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2017, 01:44:54 PM »
Bob : That's interesting indeed. Throughout the 80's and early 90's, I hit a lot of Swap Meets, including Hershey a couple of times. Of course back then, I rarely kept track of what parts I got where. However, if I remember correctly (although its been 30 years or so), it was Hershey where I got it. Unlike what was always said "back then", that "Hershey was mainly for Pre-War cars", I was always successful for both my 50's Fords and my Mustangs.

Thanks for the trivia.

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2017, 01:51:48 PM »
I tried to buy some parts from Ron in 2012 but he was not interested.  A friend and I ended up getting the car part remains of the estate from his brother.
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