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Title: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: Building 3 on February 10, 2017, 11:18:44 AM
Does anyone here know this car?  Ivy Green 1966 K-Code GT convertible for sale in Scottsdale. This is the second time in a few months that it has been for sale.  The photos show a really nice car, not perfect but no flaws that would be show stoppers, at least from the photos.  I was wondering if anyone here knew of this car or its history. Thanks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112297235512?ul_noapp=true
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 10, 2017, 05:09:46 PM
If someone wants me to go look at it I can if they are seriously considering it.
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: jwc66k on February 10, 2017, 08:23:56 PM
No! No! No!
All this car has going for it is that it is a convertible and has a "K" in the VIN. Everything else is suspect (distributor, fuel pump to name a few).
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: sgl66 on February 12, 2017, 03:43:11 PM
No! No! No!
All this car has going for it is that it is a convertible and has a "K" in the VIN. Everything else is suspect (distributor, fuel pump to name a few).
Jim
I would want to also see the 2 hidden vins on this one
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: rocket289k on February 12, 2017, 07:14:43 PM
Given it is a Metuchen built car I would want to see the buck tag to help establish it is a factory GT.  There is a photo from the drivers side of the car looking down at the engine where you can see the buck tag on the driver's side near the hood hinge (odd placement in my experience).  I agree that the engine would need to be thoroughly evaluated to ensure it is actually a K code and if it is determined to be a K code that the engine matches the car (there a lot of visual cue red flags on the engine that have already been mentioned that would warrant a close evaluation of this car).

Regards,

Ron
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: midlife on February 12, 2017, 08:41:19 PM
That was where my January 66 buck tag was located: on the driver's side fender top near the hood hinge.
(http://midlife66.com/final/final9.jpg)
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: rocket289k on February 12, 2017, 08:51:33 PM
That was where my January 66 buck tag was located: on the driver's side fender top near the hood hinge.
(http://midlife66.com/final/final9.jpg)

Thanks Midlife - learned something new today.  I concentrate more on 65's. I didn't realize that's a known location for a 66 buck tag.  Thanks!


Ron
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: sgl66 on February 13, 2017, 06:18:20 PM
Thanks Midlife - learned something new today.  I concentrate more on 65's. I didn't realize that's a known location for a 66 buck tag.  Thanks!


Ron
My Oct 65 Metuchen car has the buck tag on the passenger side. I recall there was a buck tag thread last year and forget if there was a change to driver side at one point or if it was random
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: Building 3 on February 17, 2017, 06:12:36 PM
The car did not sell.  The high bid was $38 but the reserve was $69.
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: lancelot66 on March 22, 2017, 07:35:05 PM
Looks like Virginia has it posted in their blog today:
http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/

and it is being sold through this site now:
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-ford-mustang-15/

It's a good looking car and I sure do find myself staring at the photos....wishing a little bit too...
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: jwc66k on March 22, 2017, 08:23:42 PM
For more info, go the HP forum where this convertible has been discussed since Dec 2016.
http://www.hipomustang.com/hpmx/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4378
The first e-bay link is bogus, so scroll down for more. There is a "history".
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: 69cobrajetrugae2 on March 22, 2017, 08:32:06 PM
It takes me 16 hours at least to appraise a mustang for a client, most of that time is research and viewing the videotapes.  I will find that the car is honest or a remade pig.

  The cars tell a story but you have to dig and after a while, the whole picture becomes clear.  Date codes on the glass and other parts is important.  The hardest part is finding accident damage because those Ford Dealer trained body men knew their stuff and had good parts.  I count welds and their locations on the floor pan on the video, some sellers put small dents and dings to make it look factory.

I don't know why a few body plugs are missing on honest cars, I assume the factory didn't install them.
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: lancelot66 on March 22, 2017, 09:11:13 PM
No more "wishing" will I be doing on this one anyway. Thanks for posting the link to the "history" Jim!
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: CharlesTurner on March 24, 2017, 10:05:09 AM
It looks like the Autolite 4100 is rigged to operate like a double pumper?

Looks like they lost the arm to the secondary diaphragm.

Couple of details I'm seeing look like a legit hi-po 4100, but I wouldn't say for sure.
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: jwc66k on March 24, 2017, 01:34:49 PM
Looks like they lost the arm to the secondary diaphragm.
It's a nylon arm. Ford changed from a metal arm sometime in 1964-65. The diaphragms are different too.
I took a quick look at mine and between the garage and the computer, I don't see any difference except the inlet, I have a filter there.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: CharlesTurner on March 24, 2017, 02:08:36 PM
It's a nylon arm. Ford changed from a metal arm sometime in 1964-65. The diaphragms are different too.
I took a quick look at mine and between the garage and the computer, I don't see any difference except the inlet, I have a filter there.
Jim

Aware of the nylon arm.  Was referring to the rod that connected to the nylon arm from the secondary throttle shaft.  Looks like a spring being used on the carb pictured.
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: J_Speegle on March 24, 2017, 02:25:00 PM
Looks like they lost the arm to the secondary diaphragm.

That should provide some odd throttle response. Guess owner didn't have a wire coat hanger so they used a spring instead    ::)
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: jwc66k on March 24, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
Aware of the nylon arm.  Was referring to the rod that connected to the nylon arm from the secondary throttle shaft.  Looks like a spring being used on the carb pictured.
The arm is what caught my eye between sips of "enhanced" coffee. The secondary arm is in the full secondary activated position - aka on all the time. The connecting rod is replaced with a spring to the arm that controls the secondary shaft (too much "enhancement" in their coffee), and the position of the upper portion of the cam indicates the plates are closed. If the primary shaft is fully activated, the secondary opens "manually", although I can't see tell how much (the position of the forward hole for the secondary activation rod is not set for this). Closing the secondary is also not clear, unless that add on arm is missing a spring.
It looks like the Autolite 4100 is rigged to operate like a double pumper? 
The original question - I think you may be correct, at least it is supposed to.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: J_Speegle on March 24, 2017, 04:23:29 PM
It looks like the Autolite 4100 is rigged to operate like a double pumper?  :-X :o >:(

No IMHO just the opposite. The original arrangement does operate like a Holley double pumper. By adding the spring and eliminating the stroke of the rear pump you likely get a big flat hole in acceleration (when you get the rush of air but no fuel with it) I would think.
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: jwc66k on March 24, 2017, 05:20:24 PM
- eliminating the stroke of the rear pump
Rear pump?
No IMHO just the opposite.
Yup. 
There is a screw/nut added to the choke closed adjust arm (the right side of the "slider bar" attachment) with a hole drilled into the choke arm, and a second screw/nut on the slide part of the arm that appears to go to the secondary cam bar/plate of the secondary shaft, also to a drilled in hole. It may be that when the primary is almost wide open, the "slider bar" opens the secondary, the spring closes it. The "slider bar" looks machined. Is this an old JC Whitney kit?
To put it in perspective, I would not want one of these on my car.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 K_GT on ebay
Post by: J_Speegle on March 24, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
Rear pump?

Should be diaphram



 
........................ Is this an old JC Whitney kit?


Not from my recollection.