Author Topic: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration  (Read 20777 times)

Offline 67gtasanjose

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2016, 11:07:30 AM »
I am very hesitant to post any new updates here...
...the old adage, "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't..."

I understand your hesitation to the extent of understanding that it is your project, to the extent that personal decisions must be based upon one's own circumstances such as environment the car will be stored or used in after restoration and available resources for original-style materials etc. I have also felt the "rub" of a few suggestions along the way for my project, though most of those "rubs" were back a few years ago now.

What I resolved to share or ask for help now seems to follow the primary focus this forum was intended for..."Concours" in nature, as the name of the forum suggests. The overtone of most comments that used to seem to "ruffle my feathers", was really an attempt (by those comments) to steer "Other Readers" away from anything that might be duplicated by another future restorer and perhaps on a show field, claimed as authentic because they read it over here. More often than not, the comments I have seen within this particular thread (without trying to go back & read everything over again) have looked to me standing on the sidelines, as just that.

Simply put, other people follow the lead of articles and photographs seen on the internet as a basis of doing their car too. It's all well and good when it is exactly as it was delivered when the example they are working on matches up, but far to often, it has caused other restorers to make serious mistakes in restoring their car to what they believed to be Concours, when indeed it was not.

As I said before within this thread, I really like seeing pictures of YOUR project, even the areas that are not "As delivered" (Concours)...IMHO, I agree with your decision to stick to your basic internal instincs of procedures and should you have any future regrets on those decisions to do or not to do any of the suggestions made by other members of this forum, it cannot be anyone else's fault. (should result in less hard feelings).

LOOKING GOOD MAN!
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2016, 10:48:51 AM »
Glad you have her home and can take your time getting things the way you want it.  It took me about 2 years from the time mine came back from the bodywork up to the day she was loaded on the hauler for Charlotte in 2014.  Keep us posted on your progress as you move along.  It is looking great thus far.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2016, 12:38:54 PM »
My opinion under concourse is that you would get dinged. Possibly 1 point if you cleaned it up very well and reproduced the markings accurately.  It is something that can be reinstalled until you can come across another correct one to utilize.  I have included a couple of photos for reference.  First is a 71 Boss that once passed through Perkins collection.  The second is of my wiper motor. I believe it to be original to my 72' production date 01/71 car that closely matched date stamp on housing.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2016, 11:29:02 PM »
.................. Just curious, how would this be addressed under MCA concourse driven rules? Do I leave it, or replace it? Cheers.

If its only the date code or ink stamp you can remove (paint over) or leave it. In MCA Concours (Trailer or Driven) paint marks and date codes are not included in the judging but most owners would make the detail go away just in case, so that others don't take notice of it or will replace it with a matching (for application and year) engineering and date numbers
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2016, 04:32:59 PM »
I guess the other question is, Why do you get your soap from France????  ;D
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #50 on: June 15, 2016, 04:37:24 PM »
.............. As the car will not be on the road for the foreseeable future, gives me lots of time to search out another correct '71 date coded unit.......................................

I can help shorten that wait ;)

Here is a picture that someone else posted a few years back as an example. Might have others but this basically covers the bases for what was there and the dating pattern during this time

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #51 on: June 15, 2016, 08:56:06 PM »

example showing that the stamps weren't always oriented right side up. Different color ink than above too.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2016, 09:53:25 PM »
Looks good. As always thank you for the update. Good to see it is not snowing yet north of the border. :)
67 GT S-Code, San Jose, 06/67
72 Mach 1, Dearborn, 01/72
68 Merc. Cyclone, Lorain, 12/67 (Red)
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2017, 12:42:47 AM »
bobboss351 does awesome job on his reproduction parts. Was very fortunate to get one of  the heat shields for my J code Drag Pack car. 71 429 convertible, rare and interesting car

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2017, 08:45:34 PM »
Ashley,

Any chance I can find pics of your car anywhere?
Mark W
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