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Offline JKWilson

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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2011, 09:25:41 PM »
Quote from: bryancobb on February 19, 2011, 06:26:40 AM
A little more insight based on my experience...
This lettering was "MOST LIKELY" placed on the tubes using a stencil, punched out of oiled cardboard. with a "MARSH" stencil punch machine.  These have been used since WWII in all kinds of industries.

I'd tend to agree with Bryan in making a strong case for a Marsh machine being used (or similar machine producing the same font). While in the military I used a Marsh several times a month for making stencils. I too noticed the similarity to the driveshaft stencils...just not at the time!

I took the driveshaft from my '66 GT into work one duty night in order to clean it up. While cleaning/stripping it I found the stripes. I also found the stenciling (and in what has been described on here as "school bus yellow"). The stripes being on the driveshaft were pretty common knowledge back then (just not how the particular colors decoded to applications), as such they were color matched and reapplied. Unfortunately the stencil wasn't common knowledge (this was also pre-internet days). Not having heard anything about them I thought the PO or someone (other than Ford or a Ford supplier), had painted it on. As such, off it came....and weren't reapplied.....grrrrrrrrr! Live and learn!
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 03:47:49 PM »
THAT'S DEFINITELY MARSH STENCIL MACHINE LETTERS.  THEY LOOK LIKE 1" CHARACTERS.  IF THEY ARE, WE HAVE A 1" MARSH MACHINE AND SOME OILED CARDBOARD HERE AT MY WORK!
LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE POSSIBLY 1.25" letters???
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2011, 04:06:27 PM »
Quote from: 66candy on February 21, 2011, 01:33:56 PM
Here's a closeup on the markings I found on my 66 San Jose convertible


Early 66?
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2011, 05:06:50 PM »
Quote from: J_Speegle on February 21, 2011, 04:06:27 PM

Early 66?

November 24th according to the door data plate.....
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2011, 08:44:15 PM »
Quote from: 66candy on February 21, 2011, 05:06:50 PM
November 24th according to the door data plate.....

Thanks - the date allows us to "place" it compared to others.

Others have worked out (well most) using the number after the dash as the year code. Yours doesn't fit that idea well - interesting but thanks again
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2011, 09:36:55 PM »
Jeff, the pictures of the driveline stripes that I mentioned that were on my comments with 5 pictures:    
Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code (#5) posted January 31, 2011, 02:15:00 PM.  I would like to correctly duplicate these stripes if possible since my driveline stencils and stripes were non-existent.  Glenn
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2011, 09:55:06 PM »
Quote from: GlennG on February 28, 2011, 09:36:55 PM
Jeff, the pictures of the driveline stripes that I mentioned that were on my comments with 5 pictures:    
Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code (#5) posted January 31, 2011, 02:15:00 PM.  I would like to correctly duplicate these stripes if possible since my driveline stencils and stripes were non-existent.  Glenn

Those pictures were labeled as from a Hipo - Which year and which trans?
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2011, 01:42:36 PM »
Hi Jeff, to clarify, the driveline came out of my good friend's '66 Shelby vin# SFM6S407.  I have also attached some measurements that he has generously wanted to provide for folks at the forum to use for reference. 

BTW, Can I assume that the stencils were sprayed on the driveshaft rather than hand-painted?
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2011, 04:21:24 PM »
Quote from: GlennG on March 01, 2011, 01:42:36 PM
Hi Jeff, to clarify, the driveline came out of my good friend's '66 Shelby vin# SFM6S407.  I have also attached some measurements that he has generously wanted to provide for folks at the forum to use for reference. 

Thanks so this is from a 4 speed K code from San Jose mid October



Quote from: GlennG on March 01, 2011, 01:42:36 PM
BTW, Can I assume that the stencils were sprayed on the driveshaft rather than hand-painted?

Most likely IMHO though the thickness of the paint at times might indicate otherwise.  Just leaving a little room for another explanation such as a roller over the stencil
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2011, 05:28:56 PM »
So based on this information what paint/thickness/color have people commonly used for the drive shaft stripes?
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2011, 08:48:10 PM »
Quote from: GlennG on March 01, 2011, 05:28:56 PM
So based on this information what paint/thickness/color have people commonly used for the drive shaft stripes?

Depends - some are using small hobby enamels others are using what every they have around the house (rattle cans, Rustoleum...) I have a medium size box with a collection of may be 100 different cans of paint I've collected over the years, but I do allot more of these than a regular hobbyist. I normally mix the colors from that collection as often the colors do not match right out of the bottle. '


One hint is to mix twice as much as you need since remixing a second batch will never match the first one - I know, messed up allot of times when this all first started
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2011, 12:02:33 AM »
I thought I would share the stencil markings from my 66 sprint 200 hardtop.  Metuchen build date Jan 20, 1966 (from buck tag)
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Offline Pete Bush

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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2011, 07:37:46 AM »
Tom,

Did your driveshaft have any paint stripe markings on it? Kevin indicates, "THE DRIVE SHAFT HAD TWO 1" WIDE STRIPES, ONE GREEN, AND THE OTHER WHITE." on his Sprint.

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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2011, 03:01:26 PM »
Pete,
I can see that my drive shaft definitely has at least 2 paint stripes on it.  Can't quite make out the color due to poor lighting under the car. One is a lighter color, white or yellow?  I will have to pull it out this weekend to get a closer look.  I will keep you posted.
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Re: Decoding Driveshaft Stencil Code
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2011, 06:12:04 PM »


Pete, Which came first, The White or Green stripe on the driveshaft???  Errrr, The chicken or the egg...lol..
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