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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2015, 08:05:22 PM »
In the second picture the holes in the back of the spindle where they were held in a jig were typically machined metal down into the hole. Yours looks like dark metal. Looks very good other then a little too much pink as Jeff mentioned.

Thanks Bob.  So machined just inside the hole, like it was drilled?

Also on the pink, are you talking about just the pink on the knuckles being too much, or the pink on the arms as well.  That pink on the arms pretty closely matches what was on my originals.  You can see it in some of the earlier pics in this post.  There really was quite a bit.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2015, 09:24:08 PM »
Thanks Bob.  So machined just inside the hole, like it was drilled?

Also on the pink, are you talking about just the pink on the knuckles being too much, or the pink on the arms as well.  That pink on the arms pretty closely matches what was on my originals.  You can see it in some of the earlier pics in this post.  There really was quite a bit.
The hole was completed after the casting process. There may have been a depression of some kind to start with in the raw casting. The sides and bottom of the hole would be machined metal as would be seen if drilled . The paint on the upright portion of the spindle and the arm in the unrestored spindle spindle are more then is typically seen to begin with. The restored spindle looks to have even more paint then was on the unrestored spindle. Less is more in this instance is what I guess I am trying to say.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2015, 10:51:28 PM »
The hole was completed after the casting process. There may have been a depression of some kind to start with in the raw casting. The sides and bottom of the hole would be machined metal as would be seen if drilled . The paint on the upright portion of the spindle and the arm in the unrestored spindle spindle are more then is typically seen to begin with. The restored spindle looks to have even more paint then was on the unrestored spindle. Less is more in this instance is what I guess I am trying to say.

Ok, understand.  Thanks. 

I think the paint guy was having a good day that day.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2015, 11:51:03 PM »
Ok, understand.  Thanks. 

I think the paint guy was having a good day that day.
He was having some kind of day. ;D
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2015, 01:54:01 PM »
He was having some kind of day. ;D

Yep!
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2016, 09:49:40 PM »
Strut rods - natural steel with possible paint marks on the bottom side (side with dash mark) near the end.  - Haven't seen ones there before. Have seen Dearborn ones (non- K code) marked elsewhere

Strut rod stops - natural steel with redish mark / dot - Typical non- K code thing. Have been found on both side and sometimes only on drivers side one


Sorry to revive an old topic but redoing my front suspension and found a red dot on my driver side stop.  Nothing on the passenger side though.  Assume that is normal for late Oct 64 SJ.  Will be soaking the strut rods soon to report on any markings there and spindles...
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2016, 03:13:56 AM »
Sorry to revive an old topic but redoing my front suspension and found a red dot on my driver side stop.  Nothing on the passenger side though.  Assume that is normal for late Oct 64 SJ.  Will be soaking the strut rods soon to report on any markings there and spindles...

Chris it might help if you post also with the discovery of a mark which spindles you have. Just post the casting numbers. Just a thought to keep the apples with the apples ;)
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2016, 10:11:59 PM »
As before found a red mark on the inner side of the stop but also found what appears to be one on the outside. Is this common?
Chris
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2016, 10:25:52 PM »
As before found a red mark on the inner side of the stop but also found what appears to be one on the outside. Is this common?

Looks like a run from the paint daub that got on the other side.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2016, 08:07:51 PM »
Looks like a run from the paint daub that got on the other side.

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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2016, 08:40:04 PM »
Sorry to revive an old topic but redoing my front suspension and found a red dot on my driver side stop.  Nothing on the passenger side though.  Assume that is normal for late Oct 64 SJ.  Will be soaking the strut rods soon to report on any markings there and spindles...

Chris - mine only had the red dot on the drivers side stop as well.  See pics in 1st post on page 1 of this thread.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2016, 01:13:33 PM »
Looks like a run from the paint daub that got on the other side.

So the question is, do I duplicate that or leave that off when I restore this piece?
Chris
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2016, 01:23:14 PM »
Personal preference IMO.  I replicated every sloppy drip on mine just cause I like to retain how it was.  Some days I think twice about it, but overall Im happy.

As Jeff pointed out to me a while back, the more "out of the norm" it is, the more you might have to explain to judges or back it up with pictures....or to every person at a car show who notices.

At least that's what I thought you meant Jeff.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2016, 02:16:35 PM »
I don't see a problem replicating the run.  Especially since you have a pic of the original showing the detail.
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Re: Front suspension finish & paint marks - Oct 64 SJ Hipo
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2016, 06:36:09 PM »
As Jeff pointed out to me a while back, the more "out of the norm" it is, the more you might have to explain to judges or back it up with pictures....or to every person at a car show who notices.

At least that's what I thought you meant Jeff.

That is the nature of the beast. Have no problem with reproducing what you find just be prepared 'cause someone will or should eventually ask. In this case its under the car and less likely to be seen by the general public and only by a judge or someone on this forum    ::)
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