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3rd Generation 1979 - 1993 => 1984 - 1986 SVO => Topic started by: svo2scj on July 23, 2009, 05:16:29 PM

Title: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: svo2scj on July 23, 2009, 05:16:29 PM
Just as with the early cars SVO assembly used colored paint daubs, coded componet and LH/RH to aid in fast and correct assembly on the line.

The cars were "different" in the sense that almost everything was unique and specific to the SVO. 

Use this area to post photos of ASSEMBLY shots or NOS Ford PARTS with boxes


We'll learn as we go..

Mark

Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Rarely seen OIL PLUG daub
Post by: svo2scj on July 23, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/100_0913.jpg)

Seen here on a < 2000 Mile 1986 SVO the oil plug is daubed to show undisturbed seal from the engine assembly stage.

Most daubs are for identification - in this case it sends a signal if it has been moved.

Mark
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - SVO Convienience Spare Tire
Post by: svo2scj on July 23, 2009, 06:28:57 PM
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/SVO%20Photos/100_5446.jpg)
Shown here the daubs identifing the larger donut to clear the disc brakes on any axle.

Remember ,the SVO was the first Mustang to use rear disc's from the factory and the first to use a 16" wheel.  Goodyear T125/80D16

Mark
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Front Koni's
Post by: svo2scj on July 23, 2009, 06:45:00 PM
Left to Right..
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/SVO%20Photos/100_5450.jpg)
Assembly line E4ZX #                 Ford Service               Koni factory replacement
      1983/84                          86 valving pkg 87                  PRE 1996 parts

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/SVO%20Photos/100_5451.jpg)
NOTE: The Yellow daub of the early valving and a change to the WELDS moving forward

 "Business end" of the adjustable Koni from SVO's Only the "D" shaped shaft was fitted. 
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/SVO%20Photos/100_5452.jpg)
   
NOTE :CURRENT Koni Replacements are all "thumb nail" adjusters and are painted NEW KONI RED

Mark



Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Rear Koni's
Post by: svo2scj on July 23, 2009, 06:55:00 PM
Left to Right
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/SVO%20Photos/100_5447.jpg)
                      84 Valving             85 Valving               Service 85.5/86 pkged 5/19/86*

NOTE: *Packaged a month after production stopped (4/22/86)

Mark
Title: Alternator paint daubs
Post by: 8T6 SVO on August 29, 2009, 03:59:20 PM
When I restored this engine, I found exactly one NOS alternator out there with the proper part # on it from the build time frame of this 1986 SVO.  It had a GREEN SPOT of paint as I have observed on other production alternators of that period - and on cars other than SVO's too.  Can anyone confirm this green paint daub?
Title: Re: Alternator paint daubs
Post by: bluemax on September 01, 2009, 08:10:54 PM
When I restored this engine, I found exactly one NOS alternator out there with the proper part # on it from the build time frame of this 1986 SVO.  It had a GREEN SPOT of paint as I have observed on other production alternators of that period - and on cars other than SVO's too.  Can anyone confirm this green paint daub?

Greg,

Looking through my picture collection, I have one from a "26 mile" '86 2R owned by the Hatfield's I believe, and it does not have the green paint daub on it. 

Unfortunately, I don't have a good picture of the alternator from Daniel's two cars.

Any response from our moderator...Mark???
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: bluemax on September 01, 2009, 08:23:21 PM
Here is a picture from the "171 mile" car that was recently on eBay...

Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: 8T6 SVO on September 01, 2009, 09:34:52 PM
I've got that same picture from when the car had 94 miles on it - which is what brought up this question. 

I have seen an original 1984 GT turbo with the same green dot on it - maybe the alternator I got was just a left over. I really haven't paid too much attention to SVO's.

It does look like a black paint mark on the 171/94 mile svo alternator?
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: svo2scj on September 06, 2009, 10:18:15 PM
I have found the green mark on NOS SERVICE Alternators (can't say on line parts yet)

This is the purpose of this forum - let's look , document and confirm against original cars.

Mark
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: Kendal Coker on September 06, 2009, 11:22:35 PM
I found a green dot near the bolt on my 85.5 cp. I did find a black daub on my 84 that I bought new and have never changed the alt. Here are pics of that and some other markings of my 84.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: chalkys_explorer on November 21, 2009, 06:04:21 PM

 Kendal,
            my wrecked 84 t-top has very similar marks. I'm assuming that the "11 17" on the inner fender and bumper cover are the build date, although they appear to have been made with different stamps. The "5" on the core support is also there but on both sides and also on both sides of the hood inner structure near where the hood bumpers hit.

 My other early 84 has a "T" in place of the "5". I've never worked out what the significance of that letter/number is.
I'll get some pics when i return from MI.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: J_Speegle on November 21, 2009, 11:55:30 PM
As an "outsider" to the SVO world I thought I would offer the possibility that one or more of these may be inspector (such as paint inspector) identification stampings since they were placed on the part after the paint (would not make much sense IMHO to be a date code for the stamping)  similar to what was done in the early years.

Just a possibility  - keep up the good work
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: chalkys_explorer on November 22, 2009, 08:17:06 PM
Jeff, although I've never compared the "date stamp" to the actual build date of a vehicle, this is what I believe it to be. Your statement that it may be a stamping date, or date code, would be correct but for the fact that fox body cars used date codes.

 I have found codes stamped into the sheetmetal on fenders, doors, hoods and hatches. As for paint checks, when we pulled the carpet on my 1E/9L t-top we found what appeared to be an assembly line check sheet for paint. It was pretty deteriorated but that's what it looked like.

 I've done photo studys of some very low mileage cars and never seen anything like the "Henry" stamps you see on 65-69 cars.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: J_Speegle on November 22, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
Names as inspector marks was a late 68-70 San Jose thing but was thinking more along the lines of the late 70 sort of marks (numbers in place of some of the sticker/decals


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/DSfenderStampYw13.jpg)


71-73 used a series of letters

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/73HoodPaintOK2.jpg)

Or a combination of letters and numbers as in this original 72 one

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/73qHoodPaintOK2.jpg)


Again - just a thought may not relate at all
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: rodster on March 01, 2010, 11:19:42 PM

Here's something I always wondered about and have seen on some other SVO. Similar to the grease pencil marks that were painted over on my 65 Mustang on the radiator support.

Look closely and you'll see and 'M8' under the paint.

Any idea what this was for or anyone ever notice a pattern?

Rod
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: rodster on March 01, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
Something that got left behind in my car. I found this under the spare tire. It's proof that my lousy paint is indeed 'concours' correct. There's one for the judges!  ;D
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: J_Speegle on March 02, 2010, 02:25:23 AM
Something that got left behind in my car. I found this under the spare tire. It's proof that my lousy paint is indeed 'concours' correct. There's one for the judges!  ;D

Might explain some odd overspray from the likely repaint/touch up.

Have found a number of these, One (71-73) described dirt in the paint on the passenger side. The worker shoved the form into the roof edge before they repainted that side - Form had plenty of overspray on one side once found
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: chalkys_explorer on June 22, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
 I was looking through some pics the other day and found something interesting on a 1C 84 that I looked at a couple of years ago. On the inner fender was stamped "4 13". I ran the vin, (XEF182749) and discovered a build date of 4/13/84. I also believe this car was a Comp Prep.

 Kendal, what's the vin on your 2A. I'd be interested to run that and see if the build date correspondes to the "11 17" stamping on your inner fender.

 Still trying to make sense of the random "T", "5" and "22" I've seen stamped on some cars.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: bluemax on June 22, 2010, 07:43:23 PM
Here are a couple of pics from Daniel Carpenter's '85.5; there are two date stamps, one on the RH bumper cover and the other on the LH inner fender near the onion head. Interesting that the two stamps are different colors.

According to the SVOCA VIN registry, the build date is actually 7/24.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: bluemax on June 22, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
Here is another one, however, after comparing to the DC car, this looks more like a date stamp than an ink stamp?

This is from an 11,000 mile '86 7B, VIN TXGF215994. The SVOCA VIN registry has a build date of 2/24. Hard to read the exact day in the picture.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: rodster on June 23, 2010, 12:49:36 AM
84 2A Door Tag date 10/83

DS shock tower stamp 10 20
PS inner fender stamp 01019



Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: Kendal Coker on August 06, 2010, 12:27:13 AM
I was looking through some pics the other day and found something interesting on a 1C 84 that I looked at a couple of years ago. On the inner fender was stamped "4 13". I ran the vin, (XEF182749) and discovered a build date of 4/13/84. I also believe this car was a Comp Prep.

 Kendal, what's the vin on your 2A. I'd be interested to run that and see if the build date correspondes to the "11 17" stamping on your inner fender.

 Still trying to make sense of the random "T", "5" and "22" I've seen stamped on some cars.

Yep, I checked the build date and it is 11/17.  The 84 car in question should be a 84 comp prep. A marti report (eminger) would tell for sure.
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: chalkys_explorer on September 13, 2010, 08:17:03 PM

 I was at the International Mustang Meet in Red Deer,Alberta over the Labour Day long weekend and took some pics of a very original, except for exterior paint, 84 1C, 5EF135869. It had a "G" stamped on either side of the core support, both sides of the inner hood and also on the hatch. First time I've seen it on a hatch. Also had "12 01" on the inner fender and bumper cover and the build date for this vin is 1/12/83.

Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: svo2scj on February 19, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e136/svo2scj/100_6469.jpg)

Great Example of Ford's use of daubs to identify parts - both in the assembly of a component AND for ID for build.  (green turbo 1983/84)

Mark
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: rodster on February 24, 2012, 11:15:54 PM
Cool....looks like someone went wild with the paint!  ;D
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: rodster on September 21, 2013, 11:59:23 PM
Just noticed a red B ink stamp on the timing belt cover. Something I never noticed before on other 2.3's. ??
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: bluemax on September 22, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
Do you have a pic to share?
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: rodster on September 22, 2013, 10:28:08 PM
Yea, it's not great but shows the stamp and the general location.  I'll have to take a closer look and see if I can get a better picture.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AoV0PwHkJH4/Uj-Y_8rUzXI/AAAAAAAAEhs/mBxktrXUT54/s400/84%2520SVO%2520Cover.JPG)
Title: Re: Paint Daubs - Assembly and Service parts markings
Post by: chalkys_explorer on November 06, 2013, 02:26:13 PM
 Hows this????