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1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« on: May 22, 2017, 09:07:27 AM »
I recently purchased yet ANOTHER set of NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A and once again received the narrower, 66 version. At least these had the stickers & boxes wihout any scratches or scrapes. These are claimed by the seller to have been in their possession since new in 1997 and ONLY opened for pictures prior to listing  ::)  :-\ Since these even had the correct paper stickers on them and do look to be what came in the boxes I received, I am beginning to have questions about what Ford may have been selling in the later days of carrying them.

So, is this simply yet another issue of Ford consolidated the inventory to a single Service part number? I do not have enough MPC's to investigate this.
Richard Urch

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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2017, 06:35:16 PM »
You also might search out (hopefully someone has a few copies) of the O S & Y  manuals. These list the substitutions, one part number for another, Ford did through the years.

Have one or two somewhere but at the moment have no idea where they are packed away :(
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2017, 11:03:48 PM »
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 06:13:32 AM »
Richard, I did some research posted here:

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=15428.msg96442#msg96442

John, did you notice a height difference in the ink-stamped trim ring vs. the paper tag label ring? (Set them side-by-side on the table)
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 08:12:11 AM »
Can do when I get the used ones back from the polisher.  He claims to be able to do the brushed finish so I have him doing a 68 version also.



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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 05:30:58 AM »
Another set of the white label C7ZZ-1210-A version showed up for sale on the Bay yesterday and like other versions found in recent years, only stand 2-inches tall (same as the C6ZZ versions)...it looks as though the later Service Parts may indeed have been the same parts, packaged under BOTH service part numbers.

I'm still searching for more of the "ink stamped" versions that are 2-1/4" tall...

UPDATE: This set I saw on eBay is already gone now...
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 09:05:16 AM »
I just installed a set of NOS rings on a 67 S code fastback last Saturday, They had the paper tags so I assume that they were the two inch. I'll check them next time I work on the car.

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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 09:07:33 AM »
I just installed a set of NOS rings on a 67 S code fastback last Saturday, They had the paper tags so I assume that they were the two inch. I'll check them next time I work on the car.

Fitment to the center, chrome spokes is your clue ;)  A "snug" fitment is correct, a "gap" would be incorrect. (this you could do without pulling one off)

Measurements shown in images taken from the "Now Sold" eBay listing I mentioned yesterday:
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 08:50:58 AM »
The paper label ones I installed are 2 inches as well. Possibly Ford changed suppliers.

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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017, 02:41:02 AM »
Would these rings be different from the rings used on a 67 Cougar with styled steel wheels ?
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 06:39:07 AM »
Re-visiting the old thread...

Would these rings be different from the rings used on a 67 Cougar with styled steel wheels ?

I would think these rings would be the same as a 67 Cougar, though that is likely better researched before assuming to be true (which I did NOT do the research on this).

I do see that Scott Drake is selling a reproduction (example given in this current eBay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Scott-Drake-Wheel-Trim-Ring-1967-Mustang-14-Styled-Steel-Wheels/362482737298?epid=656061241&hash=item5465a7a092:g:ozYAAOSwEf5b5ZHu )
that claims to measure 2-1/4", which is what my ink-stamped (assemblyline) version measure.

Perhaps this is an alternative to chasing down usable original ones. Has anyone purchased any or do I nice again go out on a limb and run the risk of disappointment (as seems always the case in the RePop market)?
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2018, 12:05:54 PM »
I have asked a vendor about the Scott Drake 'SETS of 4', and the vendor I contacted said they are 2-inch tall...not what I want.

I also just called Mustangs Unlimited...Swing & amiss there too so I am back to hunting originals..

I quit hunting NOS after I found out the Service NOS are not assemblyline correct...This, after returning two full sets of the C7ZZ paper-labled ones...still looking for enough C7OA-1210-A to complete my tires/wheels over this winter.
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2018, 01:43:27 PM »
I have several originals at the polisher, enough for 2-3 cars.  I need to "bump" him to remind him to get them going.  They have been on the backburner.   I hope to have you covered.
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2018, 02:10:47 PM »
I have several originals at the polisher, enough for 2-3 cars.  I need to "bump" him to remind him to get them going.  They have been on the backburner.   I hope to have you covered.

Thanks John, good to know. I'll re-count what I have too. I know some have damage, minor as it may be, but some damage under the inner ring where the chrome polisher cannot get into but I'll take these out and see how well he does with them too. I think I have 3 usable and 3 with some damage of sorts...I need 5 and want 6 of them.
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Re: 1967 NOS 14" Trim Rings C7ZZ-1210-A problems
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 02:24:39 PM »
I recently traded a C7 set to a friend for a set of C6.

During the trade, we were analyzing each one and did notice a height thickness difference.  Neither set was all the same heights.     Are you saying 67 is 2.25" tall and 66 is 2" tall?

I need to dig out the C6 set I received and remeasure them to see what I have and ask my friend how thick his C7 set is.  I know they were not all the same.
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