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Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« on: July 22, 2017, 08:53:08 PM »
So I recently received my elite Marti Report for my 69 mustang and I surprised to see some extra info that was not in my previous deluxe report.  Under the "Your vehicle was equipped with..." section there is a line item that says "Trim Variation".  What does this mean.  Does it have something to do with the fact that my interior trim code is 3AA with the extra A denoting the change from teak to walnut woodgrain trim?  I asked on some of the Facebook groups that I belong to but no one seems to know for sure. 
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 05:35:16 AM »
Looking at other Marti reports for cars with the "3AA' interiors there is no mention of a "Trim Variation"

You didn't include when or where the car was built so its not easy to compare cars built around the same time and plant.

There are at least two prior discussions on the trim variation but guess you have already read them and the links provided
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2017, 01:52:57 PM »
San Jose end of April 1969.  Yes I did search this forum and saw some older posts discussing the Trim Variation on Marti reports but I did not see where it was positively identified (only guesses). I was just wondering if it had finally been figured out (hence my post).  I just emailed Kevin Marti hopefully he can provide the answer. 

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2017, 09:07:25 PM »
..........I just emailed Kevin Marti hopefully he can provide the answer.

Think that is a great idea since its hos product and words. Might want to ask if the same term is used to describe different things (more generic) or just your specific application - to help others.

Looked through the couple of hundred 69 Marti reports I have copies of and could not find that note on any of the ones I have so don't have any to offer for comparison purposes.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 10:45:31 PM »
From the M-E-L mpc that I have under Soft Trim.

Parts for 3 digit trim codes ending with an alphabet (e. g. 1BA) are listed with parts cataloged by trim code.

Parts for 3 digit trim codes ending with a numeral (e. g. 1B1) normally are not cataloged.  Refer to the listing of Trim codes to determine which parts are available through service.  For parts which are not available for service contact your Service Representative who will process in accordance with General ICC Bulletin 7526.

From Kevin Marti's "The Mustang and Cougar Tagbook" footnote 1 on 3AA found on page 59

"Dark woodgrain pattern on door panel"

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 12:51:30 AM »
.............From Kevin Marti's "The Mustang and Cougar Tagbook" footnote 1 on 3AA found on page 59

"Dark woodgrain pattern on door panel"

Yes think the interior code doesn't provide or is related to the "trim variation" note on the Marti report. As mentioned have other examples with the same interior code and others with the two and three digit codes without the notation

Typically (the purpose of the MPC) soft trim was not serviced past two or three years it seems
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 01:05:13 PM »
I was looking at the Marti Report on a buddy's 69 Mach 1 428CJ car on Saturday and also noted that the first option line stated 'Trim Variation'. I'm interested to hear Marti's response.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 02:48:45 PM »
I was looking at the Marti Report on a buddy's 69 Mach 1 428CJ car on Saturday and also noted that the first option line stated 'Trim Variation'. I'm interested to hear Marti's response.

Anything unusual on that example that might provide a clue?
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 06:21:50 PM »
If we are taking a poll, I am going with the OP's original theory that it is the change from light to dark walnut.  I am sure I have read this somewhere before and I thought it was on the CJ Forum but I can only find reference to a '68.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2017, 07:22:43 PM »
If we are taking a poll, I am going with the OP's original theory that it is the change from light to dark walnut.  I am sure I have read this somewhere before and I thought it was on the CJ Forum but I can only find reference to a '68.

Agree that connects nicely with the 3AA but the issue I have with that being the reason for the "trim variation"  doesn't seem to work with other Marti reports with that same code, later built cars and the 3AA (and other three digit examples)  but without that note.   Unless this is something new Kevin is adding now (or did at one point) and didn't on other cars/examples

Some examples. Notice no comment of "Trim Variation"   have plenty more ;)







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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2017, 09:23:41 PM »
Given that his car is a Mach 1, is it something like different color seat stripe, or body stripes delete or body stripes color different from what's standard based on the exterior color?
Just my W.A.G.'s.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2017, 09:52:46 PM »
Given that his car is a Mach 1, is it something like different color seat stripe, or body stripes delete or body stripes color different from what's standard based on the exterior color?
Just my W.A.G.'s.

Some possibilities - guess we'll wait for Kevin's response

The removal of hood black out or the stripe deletes were noted differentlylooking at other examples

The change from standard exterior stripe color I don't think was ever recorded in any of the years on the Ford tape.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2017, 10:12:02 PM »
My WAG:
It could be as simple as: Kevin is including "Trim Variation" nomenclature, to more recently generated Marti Reports that show 3 digit interior trim codes. In the Mustang and Cougar tag book, there are footnotes next to most every 3 digit trim code. 1967-73, there are instances of suffix code 1, A, B, C, & E, all with footnotes. The footnotes have notes and the word "variation". Some variations are explained.

Only my guess, please don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2017, 11:36:29 PM »
My WAG:
It could be as simple as: Kevin is including "Trim Variation" nomenclature, to more recently generated Marti Reports that show 3 digit interior trim codes. In the Mustang and Cougar tag book, there are footnotes next to most every 3 digit trim code. 1967-73, there are instances of suffix code 1, A, B, C, & E, all with footnotes. The footnotes have notes and the word "variation". Some variations are explained.

Only my guess, please don't shoot the messenger.

Yes same thought as I had from the beginning we see this in some other ways as you look at the reports over the years
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 12:09:27 AM »
Anything unusual on that example that might provide a clue?
Nothing blaringly obvious, but I have not really had a chance to spend serious time with that car yet.  ;) He had the Marti displayed on the core support at a show and I just happened to notice that term when I glanced at the report.
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