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Offline BKnapp

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1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« on: January 31, 2018, 07:29:30 PM »
I am in the process of replacing my cooler lines and the set I got from NPD doesn't seem right or, just as likely, I am missing something. From what I can tell in the MPC, it appears the rearward line should  make a 900 bend up to a 900 fitting...line meets the fitting coming up from the bottom.

The set up that was previously on my car had the rearward line going straight into the fitting. It's my understanding this was started sometime in early 68. I can certainly rig something up to make it work, but would prefer to make it right.

Does anyone have a picture of the way the lines should look when hooked up?

Here is the line I took off and the one I was hoping to put on...it may be difficult to see the bends in 2 dimensions.

Thanks
« Last Edit: January 31, 2018, 07:30:37 PM by carlite65 »
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Offline Bob Gaines

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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2018, 09:46:50 PM »
I am in the process of replacing my cooler lines and the set I got from NPD doesn't seem right or, just as likely, I am missing something. From what I can tell in the MPC, it appears the rearward line should  make a 900 bend up to a 900 fitting...line meets the fitting coming up from the bottom.

The set up that was previously on my car had the rearward line going straight into the fitting. It's my understanding this was started sometime in early 68. I can certainly rig something up to make it work, but would prefer to make it right.

Does anyone have a picture of the way the lines should look when hooked up?

Here is the line I took off and the one I was hoping to put on...it may be difficult to see the bends in 2 dimensions.

Thanks
Bill,there is a special 90 degree brass fitting used . I believe my picture file is too large so I am having trouble loading. After 4 attempts I can't figure out how to reduce it.  I would be glad to send you a picture if you send a email address to me in a personal message. Sorry I couldn't post so others could see. 
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Offline J_Speegle

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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2018, 10:47:51 PM »
Hope this helps  Picture is a composite from Brant's tear disassembly of  a unrestored 67 GT500

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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2018, 11:13:47 PM »
Bill,there is a special 90 degree brass fitting used . I believe my picture file is too large so I am having trouble loading. After 4 attempts I can't figure out how to reduce it.  I would be glad to send you a picture if you send a email address to me in a personal message. Sorry I couldn't post so others could see.

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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 08:47:59 AM »
Thanks guys. I appreciate the help!

I should have checked here before ordering my lines several months ago. The '72 MPC shows a much different set up and I went off that. So, now I have a question on the line to engine mounting bracket, as I don't trust what I am seeing in the MPC. Where and how does this attach? It looks like the clip goes on a ground post/stud of the block. Although my set up had the correct 900 fitting, the lines were tie wrapped and just hanging from the fittings.

Thanks again....very helpful!
Bill

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‘67 390 FB A/T P/S P/B (Built 3/10/1967) 7F02S173xxx
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 04:49:41 PM »
So, now I have a question on the line to engine mounting bracket, as I don't trust what I am seeing in the MPC. Where and how does this attach? It looks like the clip goes on a ground post/stud of the block. Although my set up had the correct 900 fitting, the lines were tie wrapped and just hanging from the fittings.

Don't recall seeing a mount to the engine mount attachment bolt - but will look through my pictures. Took a bunch of pictures of a 67 390 auto car last week. Still haven't resized or labeled them yet
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 05:15:31 PM »
Don't recall seeing a mount to the engine mount attachment bolt -
This type of mount is shown in section ILL A71 page 6, but is very ambiguous. The caption states "Mustang All 8 Cyl Engines".
The attached picture (source unknown) may be the service replacement for the fitting shown in the original post, replies 2 and 3. The part number is C9ZZ-7D273-A. It is similar to the one in reply 3.
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 05:18:39 PM »
This type of mount is shown in section ILL A71 page 6, but is very ambiguous. The caption states "Mustang All 8 Cyl Engines".
The attached picture (source unknown) may be the service replacement for the fitting shown in the original post, replies 2 and 3. The part number is C9ZZ-7D273-A. It is similar to the one in reply 3.
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Think your correct Jim is slightly different in design. That looks like what you can get at the local hardware store currently
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 05:18:46 PM »
My wording is misleading...I think. It's my understanding there is a clip holding the lines to the engine block and I am wondering where this clip mounts (attaches). If I am reading the MPC correctly, it looks like this clip is attached to a grounding stud on the front P/S of the engine block. I would suspect there is a mounting clip somewhere. I wouldn't think the only points securing the line would be at the fittings...but I am wrong more than I am right, so hopefully someone can help.
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‘67 390 FB A/T P/S P/B (Built 3/10/1967) 7F02S173xxx
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 05:23:35 PM »
Here are some of the pictures I took last week. Covers pretty much from radiator to trans though there are some gaps at the very rear where the lines go into the trans due to other things in the way and lighting

Hope these help

Purple arrows - band/C clamps
Blue arrows - identify the transmission fluid lines 

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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 05:25:27 PM »
................. I wouldn't think the only points securing the line would be at the fittings...but I am wrong more than I am right, so hopefully someone can help.

You would think not but there are a number of examples where they were pretty much suspended much of their length. Sure many of us have dealt with "buzzing" transmission lines.  a quick twist or realignment often fixed the issue - at least for a period of time.
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 05:28:39 PM »
Thanks guys. I appreciate the help!

I should have checked here before ordering my lines several months ago. The '72 MPC shows a much different set up and I went off that. So, now I have a question on the line to engine mounting bracket, as I don't trust what I am seeing in the MPC. Where and how does this attach? It looks like the clip goes on a ground post/stud of the block. Although my set up had the correct 900 fitting, the lines were tie wrapped and just hanging from the fittings.

Thanks again....very helpful!
On the 67 FE the lines are connected to the fittings only front and back and not connected to the engine block.  The two lines are typical held together with a small metal clip in two spots . These spots can vary some . From various observation one typical spot is where the lines straighten out after wrapping around the starter and another spot farther forward just before where the lines pass the front of the oil pan .
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Re: 1967 C6 Cooler Line Fittings at Transmission
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 06:59:16 PM »
Thanks again....all very helpful.
Bill

‘67 390 Coupe A/T  P/S  P/B. (Built 1/4/1967)  7R01S145xxx
‘67 390 FB A/T P/S P/B (Built 3/10/1967) 7F02S173xxx
2007 Shelby GT500 40th Anniv.  Convert. #125