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Offline Pete Bush

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 06:18:35 PM »
I'm not sure how else to handle the color codes.

At least the Ditzler numbers can be seen on the pages that are available on Ebay and turn up at swap meets and such.

TCP Global is pretty good about matching the color and they have formulas for many already. I'm sure there will be a process for converting this info to the newer water-based products. But they currently have the original acrylic enamel. As Jeff suggests, at the very least it gives a starting point baseline.

That being said, if you have a product mixing formula for a particular color perhaps you can provide it and we can create another page of data that tabulates the info.

Since there weren't any suggestions on the structure of the spreadsheet, perhaps we can move on to the color schemes. I started out with my standard interior turquoise convertible. This car had been restored by a previous owner, so I'm not sure that the interior colors as noted are 100% correct. The upper dash pad area seems to be darker, so I'm saying Med. Aqua there. Most of the rest of the painted surfaces are lighter - so Light Turquoise on those. Upholstery, plastic, and other soft trim approximates either of these two colors - but are not painted surfaces. Notations indicate which color these soft parts approximate.

Would other interiors in this section of the table follow the same pattern?
'66 6-cylinder Sprint Convertible
Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2012, 06:33:35 AM »
I've been trying to think of ways we can fill this table with data and spur discussion. Attached is a link to an ebay auction for a code 64 interior Emberglo & Parchment. Is this car fitted out correctly so that I can note the color scheme that I see here? Why is the running pony insert darker on the rear seat cover than on the front? Which is correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUTOMATIC-6-CYL-RUNS-GREAT-NO-RESERVE-AUCTION-/261004001384?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc50d0068

'66 6-cylinder Sprint Convertible
Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2012, 06:59:36 AM »
Pete,
Here's the spray-out card and custom mix from it, that I was able to have mixed by my PPG jobber
from a factory painted area on the rear of my metal quarter trim pieces.

My car is a Mar 66 Metuchen 22 code interior.

At his suggestion, I let him mix it from Global Base/Clear product, used with no catalyst or clearcoat to closely replicate acrylic lacquer.



Here's how it looks.

« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 07:04:36 AM by bryancobb »
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

Offline Pete Bush

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2012, 07:32:15 AM »
Thanks, Bryan!
That should be a mix formula for the Ditzler #13004 Light Blue Poly.  ;)

Can you give me a breakdown of the component colors in your Code 22 interior? What's Light Blue and what's Medium Blue?
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 07:34:05 AM by Pete Bush »
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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2012, 10:43:14 AM »
Correct on the light blue poly. 

On the dark blue stuff... Here's what I painted dark:  the radio speaker grille and the windshield-to-dash 2-piece molding.  That's all.  I painted the inside of the A-Pillars light blue poly.
I am not certain the a-pillars should be light.  They would actually look better dark but I doubt Ford use 2 colors on the interior parts.  Except for the grille and molding which would have been done
at another place and already dry. 
66 Metuch Conv
Nightmist, Std Blu Int
6T08C223904    76A       K         22       15c     21      6        6
                      BODY  COLOR   TRIM    DATE   DSO   AXLE  XMSN
   C/O  785                                   (rotation #)
   16    C14   6T08C223904        (weld bay 16, bucked MAR 14)

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2012, 01:45:18 PM »
The A-pillars on my 27 interior were also lighter than the surrounding dash.

Can you provide color details of the rest of the components on the spreadsheet? Which is light and which is dark? I know they don't get painted.
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Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2012, 03:18:57 PM »
Using Bob Perkins' Low mileage FB and HT featured in MM and the low mileage red HT recently posted on ebay as a reference, I filled in as much as I could on codes 25, 35, and 65.  See below.  A couple of notes:  maybe "seat insert" is a better term than "seat bolster" and might want to add "pony insert" as a column as code 65 seats are all Red Poly except for the pony insert.  Also, might want to add a "kick panel carpet" column as suggested earlier.  I checked both colors in kick panel column on 65 because kick panel is Red Poly and Kick panel carpet is Dark Red.  I will keep researching and add when I can.
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« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 09:25:18 PM by tomtri66 »
MCA# 78748 Adirondack Shelby Mustang Club
66 Metuchen HT Sprint 200 Package B
6T07T194XXX   65A       Y       22     20A     ?        2       6
                    BODY  COLOR  TRIM  DATE  DSO  AXLE  TRANS
C/O    762
4        A20     6T07T194XXX
65A       Y        22

Offline Pete Bush

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2012, 03:51:31 PM »
Thanks, Tom! :)

I agree that the seat sections need a more descriptive word, but I'm not sure just what that is yet.
And I'll add another component column for the kick panel carpet. And maybe the pony inserts, too.

The pony seat inserts on the Emberglo & Parchment car I referenced above had a brown or maybe Dark Emberglo color on the rear seats. I'm thinking this is an original treatment. Do the repop's use this? What color would you say the inserts were on the red interior code 65 car you looked at?
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Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2012, 04:25:38 PM »
I remember someone stating that the original inserts were darker in color and the reproductions get this wrong.   it definitely looks like the front seat covers were replaced on this coupe.  The originals on Bob Perkins' coupe are a dark red.  see attachments
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 09:24:41 PM by tomtri66 »
MCA# 78748 Adirondack Shelby Mustang Club
66 Metuchen HT Sprint 200 Package B
6T07T194XXX   65A       Y       22     20A     ?        2       6
                    BODY  COLOR  TRIM  DATE  DSO  AXLE  TRANS
C/O    762
4        A20     6T07T194XXX
65A       Y        22

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2012, 07:43:58 PM »
Ok so here is my first draft at filling in Pete's spreadsheet.  I used "How to Restore Your Mustang" by Larry Dobbs and Donald Farr and pictures from Klaus' web page as a reference except for codes mentioned above where I used the original examples.  There ARE definitely mistakes and missing information, so please have at it. Any input and corrections are appreciated :)
« Last Edit: April 16, 2012, 10:33:25 PM by tomtri66 »
MCA# 78748 Adirondack Shelby Mustang Club
66 Metuchen HT Sprint 200 Package B
6T07T194XXX   65A       Y       22     20A     ?        2       6
                    BODY  COLOR  TRIM  DATE  DSO  AXLE  TRANS
C/O    762
4        A20     6T07T194XXX
65A       Y        22

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2012, 08:11:02 PM »
I remember someone stating that the original inserts were darker in color and the reproductions get this wrong.   it definitely looks like the front seat covers were replaced on this coupe.  The originals on Bob Gaines' coupe are a dark red.  see attachments

Might that be Bob "Perkins" rather than Gaines ;)
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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2012, 09:23:37 PM »
Opps my bad  Thanks!  ;)

Corrected.
MCA# 78748 Adirondack Shelby Mustang Club
66 Metuchen HT Sprint 200 Package B
6T07T194XXX   65A       Y       22     20A     ?        2       6
                    BODY  COLOR  TRIM  DATE  DSO  AXLE  TRANS
C/O    762
4        A20     6T07T194XXX
65A       Y        22

Offline Pete Bush

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2012, 06:58:42 AM »
Tom,

On the code 64 interior link I posted, it looks like the sunvisors and headliner are parchment not emberglo.

My code 27 door panels and arm rest pads are Med. Aqua not Light Turquoise as I mistakenly noted.

In the parts catalogs, the red seats, door panels, and dash pad are indicated differently between 1965 and 1966. For 1965 these are simply called Red; while for 1966 they are called Dark Red or Maroon. You indicate the dash is darker than the seats and door panels. Is this actually the case?
The Ditzler color code for 1966 Red was #71541; while the 1965 Red was #71315. So when the parts books say Dark Red they may simply be referring to the different shade that year. That being said, I've read where there are still some darker red tones in the 1966 interior. Is it only on the dash, though?
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Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2012, 08:47:34 AM »
The dash, speaker grill, windshield moldings on Bob Perkins' FB and HT are definitely a darker color.  Pics below.
MCA# 78748 Adirondack Shelby Mustang Club
66 Metuchen HT Sprint 200 Package B
6T07T194XXX   65A       Y       22     20A     ?        2       6
                    BODY  COLOR  TRIM  DATE  DSO  AXLE  TRANS
C/O    762
4        A20     6T07T194XXX
65A       Y        22

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Re: 1966 Interior Color Code Project
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2012, 07:39:56 AM »
Would a Code 62 car actually have three colors? Light Blue, Med. Blue, and White - Where the Med. Blue was the dash pad area and pony seat inserts?
'66 6-cylinder Sprint Convertible
Metuchen - Scheduled May 10th; Built June 21st