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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1966 Mustang => Topic started by: Pete Bush on April 13, 2012, 07:13:11 AM
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Looks like there's a little bit of interest in creating a Mustang Interior Color Code Chart similar to the one attached here for 1966 Thunderbirds provided by the Thunderbird club.
Also attached is a photo of a page out of the Ditzler Interior Color Identification Chart for 1966. It lists the correct color codes for Mustang interior paint.
I've begun building an Excel spreadsheet similar to the Thunderbird one - only with Mustang components along the top. So far I have the following list of components:
Windshield Moulding
Speaker/Defroster Grille
Dash Pad
A-Pillar
Instrument Panel
Instrument Cluster
Glove Box Door
Steering Column
Steering Wheel
Rally Pac
Kick Panels
Metal Door Surfaces
Door Panels
Arm Rest Pads
Door Lock Knob
Windlace
Console
Console Trim
Seat
Seat Bolster
Seat Side Shield
Seat Belts
Quarter Trim Panel
Package Tray
Carpet
Foot/Heel Pad
Sunvisor
Headliner
2+2 Vent
2+2 Overhead Moulding
Convertible Top Liner/Pads
Convertible Top Bows
Header Seal
Boot
Is this list sufficient? Is the wording of a component correct? Or is there a more appropriate nomenclature?
With everyone's help, I'd like to begin identifying component colors. I'll then note them on the spreadsheet. When done Jeff can post it in the Library section for reference. If this works out, we might do the same for other years.
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Great idea! How can i help?
I'd add "kick panel carpet" to your list - the deluxe interior got an additional piece of carpet on the kick panels.
Here are all the codes for 66, summed up to groups:
Standard bucket seats:
Code 2 - one color:
22 - blue
25 - red
26 - black
27 - aqua
2DA - parchment
Code D - parchment with colored appointments:
D2 - parchment with blue appointments
D3 - parchment with burgundy appointments
D4 - parchment with emberglow appointments
D6 - parchment with black appointments
D7 - parchment with aqua appointments
D8 - parchment with ivy gold appointments
D9 - parchment with palomino appointments
Standard bench seats:
Code 3 - one color:
32 - blue
35 - red
36 - black
Code C - parchment with colored appointments:
C2 - parchment with blue appointments
C3 - parchment with burgundy appointments
C4 - parchment with emberglow appointments
C6 - parchment with black appointments
C7 - parchment with aqua appointments
C8 - parchment with ivy gold appointments
C9 - parchment with palomino appointments
Deluxe bucket seats:
Code 6 - two-tone:
62 - blue/white
64 - emberglow/parchment
67 - aqua/white
68 - ivy gold/white
Code 6 - one color:
65 - red
66 - black
Code F - parchment with colored appointments:
F2 - parchment with blue appointments
F3 - parchment with burgundy appointments
F4 - parchment with emberglow appointments
F6 - parchment with black appointments
F7 - parchment with aqua appointments
F8 - parchment with ivy gold appointments
F9 - parchment with palomino appointments
There should also be a hint to the three digit codes (with an additional "A") and what the difference would be compared to the normal two-digit code.
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This chart from "How To Restore Your Mustang" by Larry Dobbs and Donald Farr published by California Mustang in 1989. There are some inconsistencies in it.
Jim
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Thanks for the info there, Panther.
I'm aware of the carpet at the bottom of the deluxe kick panels. I'm just not sure how I want to note it in the spreadsheet. It might be a footnote.
You say "one color" on some of your interiors such as the Code 2's and 3's. But that might be a little confusing as even those interiors had different shading variations between components. For instance, an aqua interior (27) might have Light Turquoise Poly (#13025) on the metal parts of the doors and Medium Aqua Poly (#12993) on the speaker grille.
While an "A" suffix on a standard interior code meant no rosette material used in the seat cushion or back; an "A" suffix on a deluxe interior meant a one-piece quarter trim design. This information might also be dealt with by way of a footnote.
Jim,
I have Dobbs' book too. And I agree that there are inconsistencies that we can correct with our version. It also is a rather incomplete listing of components, and might be a little easier to read. I kinda like the layout of the Thunderbird chart - easy to read. Do you think that there's any modifications to that format that would better serve a person reading it for the first time?
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Thanks for the info there, Panther.
i'm glad if i can help! :)
I'm aware of the carpet at the bottom of the deluxe kick panels. I'm just not sure how I want to note it in the spreadsheet. It might be a footnote.
I think this would be acceptable as the kick panel carpet always has the same color as the carpet.
You say "one color" on some of your interiors such as the Code 2's and 3's. But that might be a little confusing as even those interiors had different shading variations between components. For instance, an aqua interior (27) might have Light Turquoise Poly (#13025) on the metal parts of the doors and Medium Aqua Poly (#12993) on the speaker grille.
You're right, i'm aware of this problem - it led to my post: Problem with blue package tray on 66 mustangs (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=203.msg25414#msg25414). I didn't know how to call these interior codes witch represent one color even if it has different shades. Perhaps you have an idea?
While an "A" suffix on a standard interior code meant no rosette material used in the seat cushion or back; an "A" suffix on a deluxe interior meant a one-piece quarter trim design. This information might also be dealt with by way of a footnote.
+1 on this
Paul
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Do you think that there's any modifications to that format that would better serve a person reading it for the first time?
Suggestions:
One page per year. Someone working on a 65 won't really care about a 66. If they do, they can flip pages.
Don't crowd the page. A section (or page) like Paul did for standard, delux and bench seats might be considered.
You almost need a paint to interior matrix as a reference even if it's a duplication of another source.
Jim
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hi guys great post what about the color of the front seat belt sheaths and buckle for a 66 convertible with deluxe seat belts and the 67 interior trim with pony interior.they are a dark green in color.thanks
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All good suggestions!
I think what I'll do is to put together something in spreadsheet form and post it here so everyone can see it and react to it. We can then add/delete/modify it as necessary until we have something suitable. I'll try and work on it tonight and tomorrow morning.
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A few things I thing will need clarification
1- Instrument Panel & Instrument Cluster ?
Are these the gauge bezel ?
Should one be "Dash and ash tray surfaces"?
2- Glove Box Door
Does this every change? All are low gloss black on the back side
3- Rally Pac
Opening a can a worms considering dealer or factory installation aren't we?
4- Door Lock Knob
Might want to leave that one off starting in 66 - since they are all the same finish
5- Console Trim?
What is this and how does the color change based on interior?
6- Seat Bolster?
7- Seat Side Shield
Again does this change?
8- Foot/Heel Pad
Would this include shape, use or color? Might leave it off
9- Convertible Top Bows & Header Seal
Again since they don't change their elimination would clean up the spread sheet and get rid of some columns that would just be all the same
Just some thoughts and input ;)
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Attached is a first draft template. Although some components might not change in color (convertible top bows for instance) I've included them thus far just so there's a complete accounting.
Seats are two-tone. Is there another way to distinguish the differences?
Please comment on the structure of the table at this point. Once we can agree on that, we can begin to fill in the appropriate color schemes.
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Looks great, Pete. Really like this idea.
Would it be helpful to include the original Ford part number as well as the Ditzler?
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Tom,
Do you have a Ford/Ditzler cross-reference for interior paint?
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I had a long conversation with a Lady at PPG regarding an interior paint code from the 60's.
Seems all of those codes are now defunct and they can only go by closest match.
Listing all the paint codes for all the different parts is great, but how can anyone get a correct colour mix when the codes no longer exist ?
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Have you tried TCP Global online at:
http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1966-fordinterior-pg01.jpg
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I had a long conversation with a Lady at PPG regarding an interior paint code from the 60's.
Seems all of those codes are now defunct and they can only go by closest match.
Listing all the paint codes for all the different parts is great, but how can anyone get a correct colour mix when the codes no longer exist ?
Firstly at least the chart will help owners know what finishes match each other but the idea of using old codes for color matching does create some problem since, as you mentioned, many paint suppliers can't do much with them. To add to the problem once water base paints become the norm and current formulas will have to be redone again. Currently TCGobal has many of the interior and exterior colors reformulated but they may not have all of them. I think they are doing it on a as needed basis as they get samples since I don't believe they are reformulating old mixes (doesn't work neatly that way from my understanding) but instead hand matching until they get the color. Did this (with them) a couple years back when they didn't have a color they listed figured out yet
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I'm not sure how else to handle the color codes.
At least the Ditzler numbers can be seen on the pages that are available on Ebay and turn up at swap meets and such.
TCP Global is pretty good about matching the color and they have formulas for many already. I'm sure there will be a process for converting this info to the newer water-based products. But they currently have the original acrylic enamel. As Jeff suggests, at the very least it gives a starting point baseline.
That being said, if you have a product mixing formula for a particular color perhaps you can provide it and we can create another page of data that tabulates the info.
Since there weren't any suggestions on the structure of the spreadsheet, perhaps we can move on to the color schemes. I started out with my standard interior turquoise convertible. This car had been restored by a previous owner, so I'm not sure that the interior colors as noted are 100% correct. The upper dash pad area seems to be darker, so I'm saying Med. Aqua there. Most of the rest of the painted surfaces are lighter - so Light Turquoise on those. Upholstery, plastic, and other soft trim approximates either of these two colors - but are not painted surfaces. Notations indicate which color these soft parts approximate.
Would other interiors in this section of the table follow the same pattern?
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I've been trying to think of ways we can fill this table with data and spur discussion. Attached is a link to an ebay auction for a code 64 interior Emberglo & Parchment. Is this car fitted out correctly so that I can note the color scheme that I see here? Why is the running pony insert darker on the rear seat cover than on the front? Which is correct?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AUTOMATIC-6-CYL-RUNS-GREAT-NO-RESERVE-AUCTION-/261004001384?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc50d0068
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Pete,
Here's the spray-out card and custom mix from it, that I was able to have mixed by my PPG jobber
from a factory painted area on the rear of my metal quarter trim pieces.
My car is a Mar 66 Metuchen 22 code interior.
At his suggestion, I let him mix it from Global Base/Clear product, used with no catalyst or clearcoat to closely replicate acrylic lacquer.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad350/bryancobb/66mustanginteriorblue.jpg)
Here's how it looks.
(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad350/bryancobb/walnut.jpg)
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Thanks, Bryan!
That should be a mix formula for the Ditzler #13004 Light Blue Poly. ;)
Can you give me a breakdown of the component colors in your Code 22 interior? What's Light Blue and what's Medium Blue?
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Correct on the light blue poly.
On the dark blue stuff... Here's what I painted dark: the radio speaker grille and the windshield-to-dash 2-piece molding. That's all. I painted the inside of the A-Pillars light blue poly.
I am not certain the a-pillars should be light. They would actually look better dark but I doubt Ford use 2 colors on the interior parts. Except for the grille and molding which would have been done
at another place and already dry.
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The A-pillars on my 27 interior were also lighter than the surrounding dash.
Can you provide color details of the rest of the components on the spreadsheet? Which is light and which is dark? I know they don't get painted.
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Using Bob Perkins' Low mileage FB and HT featured in MM and the low mileage red HT recently posted on ebay as a reference, I filled in as much as I could on codes 25, 35, and 65. See below. A couple of notes: maybe "seat insert" is a better term than "seat bolster" and might want to add "pony insert" as a column as code 65 seats are all Red Poly except for the pony insert. Also, might want to add a "kick panel carpet" column as suggested earlier. I checked both colors in kick panel column on 65 because kick panel is Red Poly and Kick panel carpet is Dark Red. I will keep researching and add when I can.
Tom
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Thanks, Tom! :)
I agree that the seat sections need a more descriptive word, but I'm not sure just what that is yet.
And I'll add another component column for the kick panel carpet. And maybe the pony inserts, too.
The pony seat inserts on the Emberglo & Parchment car I referenced above had a brown or maybe Dark Emberglo color on the rear seats. I'm thinking this is an original treatment. Do the repop's use this? What color would you say the inserts were on the red interior code 65 car you looked at?
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I remember someone stating that the original inserts were darker in color and the reproductions get this wrong. it definitely looks like the front seat covers were replaced on this coupe. The originals on Bob Perkins' coupe are a dark red. see attachments
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Ok so here is my first draft at filling in Pete's spreadsheet. I used "How to Restore Your Mustang" by Larry Dobbs and Donald Farr and pictures from Klaus' web page as a reference except for codes mentioned above where I used the original examples. There ARE definitely mistakes and missing information, so please have at it. Any input and corrections are appreciated :)
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I remember someone stating that the original inserts were darker in color and the reproductions get this wrong. it definitely looks like the front seat covers were replaced on this coupe. The originals on Bob Gaines' coupe are a dark red. see attachments
Might that be Bob "Perkins" rather than Gaines ;)
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Opps my bad Thanks! ;)
Corrected.
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Tom,
On the code 64 interior link I posted, it looks like the sunvisors and headliner are parchment not emberglo.
My code 27 door panels and arm rest pads are Med. Aqua not Light Turquoise as I mistakenly noted.
In the parts catalogs, the red seats, door panels, and dash pad are indicated differently between 1965 and 1966. For 1965 these are simply called Red; while for 1966 they are called Dark Red or Maroon. You indicate the dash is darker than the seats and door panels. Is this actually the case?
The Ditzler color code for 1966 Red was #71541; while the 1965 Red was #71315. So when the parts books say Dark Red they may simply be referring to the different shade that year. That being said, I've read where there are still some darker red tones in the 1966 interior. Is it only on the dash, though?
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The dash, speaker grill, windshield moldings on Bob Perkins' FB and HT are definitely a darker color. Pics below.
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Would a Code 62 car actually have three colors? Light Blue, Med. Blue, and White - Where the Med. Blue was the dash pad area and pony seat inserts?
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Would a Code 62 car actually have three colors? Light Blue, Med. Blue, and White - Where the Med. Blue was the dash pad area and pony seat inserts?
I don't think so. The chart from "How To restore Your Mustang" Lists Medium Blue Irid as the only blue for code 62. Although the picture from Klaus' site doesn't show the pony inserts. I will search and see what I can find for pictures of original code 62 interior.
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Here's a couple of interior shots of my 66 "K" code Fastback interior with code 62. As you can see, the dash pad, carpet and belts are dark blue, the door paint and seats are medium blue. The exterior is Silver Blue, code Y.
Jim
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Jim,
Would you say the dash pad etc matches the color used in the code 22 lt. Blue/dk. blue interior? Also, are the pony seat inserts on the original covers a darker shade of blue as the rest of the vinyl as we saw in the red interior?
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This picture seems to show a darker color for the pony inserts. The overwhelming majority of the other pictures I've found (which I am assuming are repops) have the pony inserts the same blue as the rest of the vinyl. It's possible this picture shows an example of original code 62 upholstery although i was unable to confirm from the site I found it on.
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Thanks, Jim.
I had a suspicion that was the case. That way there was only one blue-colored dash pad and it was used in both the standard interior 22 code and the deluxe interior 62 code. My suspicion is that the same holds true for the red, aqua, burgundy, emberglo, ivy gold, and palomino dash pads - one color version of each that was used in either the standard or deluxe interior.
I'm also thinking that the pony inserts on the seats were typically a darker coordinating color for many (if not all) of the deluxe interiors. This is based upon the original red and emberglo interiors we've seen. And it sure looks like Tom found a blue interior with darker inserts, but maybe you can confirm that's the case with your interior, Jim? And that it's a factory original detail?
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I'm also thinking that the pony inserts on the seats were typically a darker coordinating color for many (if not all) of the deluxe interiors. This is based upon the original red and emberglo interiors we've seen. And it sure looks like Tom found a blue interior with darker inserts, but maybe you can confirm that's the case with your interior, Jim? And that it's a factory original detail?
The interior of my "K" car is factory, except for the Rally Pac which is original (the clock don't work) and it was installed about 20 years ago. The wood grain steering wheel I replaced about 15 years ago. The seat material is about the shade of the door paint, medium blue. The car has 78,000 miles on it but has been garaged for the last 30-35 years. Before that it was carport at night and plant parking lot during the day where the original owner used a front window shield and had a carpet over the folded down seat area so it's still in good condition.
Jim
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Here's a link to a video for a code 62 interior:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv-4iYnVZ7g
While parts of the car are clearly not original the portion of the video about 2:30 minutes in has a good shot of the seats, and the pony insert sure looks like a different shade of blue than the rest of the seat cover.
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Here's two of my interior taken about an hour ago.
The contrast between the two blues of the dash pad and "A" pilar is shown here with the pilar the same as the door trim.
The blue is consistent between the outer material and insert.
Jim
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Thanks so much, Jim! That's really helpful and curious.
This prompts a question to Jeff:
I know you're always asking about the plant a car was built at and the time frame of its construction - because there are slight differences from one plant to another, or one point in time to another. Might this be a case in point? A different supplier perhaps for Jim's car seats - plant and build date?
Pete
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Have you tried TCP Global online at:
http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1966-fordinterior-pg01.jpg
No I have not. I assumed that all the interior would be one colour, I am learning all the time.
I bought some bright red interior paint from NPD and painted the lower part of the steering column in the engine bay.
I am not happy with it, it is quite dark.
I may ask if TCP global can produce the two red mixes shown in the chart.
Thanks all.
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The Red #71541 is probably the color you'll need for the doors and steering column. The Dark Red #71566 is likely to be the speaker grille and windshield moulding.
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And here's a picture of a '65 Ivy Gold seat with a darker pony insert.
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The Red #71541 is probably the color you'll need for the doors and steering column. The Dark Red #71566 is likely to be the speaker grille and windshield moulding.
Thanks
Their site is not easy to get around. The only way I can find Ford interior paint is to follow your link on page 1 of this thread.
I cannot find it direct. I assume 1965 is the same colours as 1966.
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I'm learning to never assume anything ;)
Actually the 1965 code for red in my Ditzler Interior Color Code book is: #71315
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And here's a picture of a '65 Ivy Gold seat with a darker pony insert.
Pete,
The insert is embossed with running horses by a heat treated stamp. It reflects light different because of that. The only suggestion to cure you reflected vision is some good California wine.
Jim
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;D ;D ;D
Then the same should be true of your photos, Jim
And here in Tennessee, it's Jack Daniels.
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I keep a bottle of JD no 7 Sourmash handy - for, you know, medicinal purposes, like after working on cars all day long, in my garage, where it's hot and dusty, and stuff. But for better vision, a 7 year old California Cab does wonders.
Jim
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Attached is the latest version of the color chart. But there's still some work to do in order to substantiate color schemes.
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Here's a well worn sample of interior code 62 from a convertible from e-bay -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-convertable-Clean-Pre-Owned-Collectors-/400292104817?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item5d3344ca71#ht_19808wt_1165
Seat inserts are the same as the seats, "sun enhanced", but the same. The rest is subject to your own judgment.
Jim
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Jim,
Excellent example. I'm not trying to be a PITA here, but I see the inserts as slightly different in color - darker.
But I'll defer to the judgement of the rest of the forum here and adjust the spreadsheet table accordingly.
What do you think, guys? Same color or different colors?
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Compare the interior on this car with the one Jim posted:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-FORD-MUSTANG-CONVERTIBLE-FACTORY-A-C-AUTO-PONY-INT-P-TOP-PS-C-CODE-MINT-/320891080203?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4ab6994e0b
The inserts on this car actually look the same color. At least to me they do.
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Pete...and others,
I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE! The PPG spray-out card and mixing formula I posted earlier in this thread is all WRONG. I do NOT know what happened but I went to the paint store with it yesterday and had them mix me a pint by that formula, to paint the passenger door I am working on.
AFTER THEY FINISHED, I COMPLAINED THAT IT WAS WAY TOO DARK. THEY MIXED ANOTHER PINT THINKING THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN DISTRACTED WHEN MIXING. AGAIN I SAID "TOO DARK." AFTER ARGUING FOR 30 MIN., THEY CONVINCED ME THAT IT WOULD MATCH AFTER SPRAYING. WELL IT DOESN'T!!!
**NOW I'LL BE STARTING FROM SCRATCH. BUMMER.
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Bryan,
That stinks :(
I wonder if the Ditzler #13004 from TCP Global would be a better match?
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That's lacquer. In hindsight, it probably would be better to mail order. After I looked at what could have happened, I think the decal for the dark blue for the speaker grille and windshield molding got stuck on the back of the light blue spray out card. The new mixed paint is a dead ringer for the dark blue.
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There's four radio buttons on the left-hand side. You can order Acrylic Enamel, Acrylic Urethane, Acrylic Lacquer, or Urethane Basecoat.
Well at least it looks like you've got a formula for the Med. Blue #12989 ;)
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Has anyone had a paint chip done of Red Poly 71541?
I have the original colour on my speaker grille of the dark red poly, but I feel the rest of the dash and doors have been painted before.
I cannot find the interior colours for 1965 on that TCP site, so assume that the main red is the same as for the '66.
It is not possible for me to order paint from them, so wondered if this code of 71541 is anything like the original. In other words has anyone tried to get anything mixed from it ?
Thank you.
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Here are the Ditzler Interior Color pages for 1964 and 1965.
Ford used a different Red for those years then they did for 1966. For 64-65 they used #71315.
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Thank you very much Pete.
OK so I need 71315 and I see compared to Rangoon red on the chart it should be darker.
I wonder if TCP would do me a colour chip of 71315 ?
There must be a way of finding a match ???????
Or should I just get MY Jack Daniels out of the cupboard.
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I'm not sure if TCP would do a color chip. You'd have to to check with them.
I'd stay away from the Jack Daniels, though. It won't improve the color. ;D
Say, where in the United Kingdom are you located? Dad was born in Bolton, Lancashire. Moved to the States when he was just a baby.
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Hey pete
Too late on the JD !
Ok if you go to Google Earth or Maps and type in my Zip IP23 8LP Suffolk UK you will see that its nearly as far away from Bolton as its possible to get.
Have you lost the accent yet ?
Mark
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Just an update on the project:
I'm currently researching the interior fabrics and think I can replace a vague color statement on the current version of the chart with the code number of a color swatch out of the Master Parts Catalog. I hope this should identify the exact fabric used.
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Attached is the latest revision of the color-code chart. I've replaced the fabric colors with the appropriate code from the 1966 MPC. Still working on some of the dash pad colors and the pony insert colors.
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I'm continuing to research the pony insert colors. I've been trying to look through old ads from the 60's. Attached are two pictures from some of those ads.
The picture of the blue seat covers is from the 1966 Mustang sales brochure. The insets look like the same color as the bolsters.
The picture of the ivy gold seat covers is from a 1965 ad promoting the new GT and pony interior options. The inserts here look like different colors.
It may be that Ford had different suppliers for the seat covers, and this accounts for the different colors on some of the inserts. It may be that only certain colors (ivy gold and emberglo, for instance) were different colors; while other colors (blue) were the same.
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Pete,
Don't take a wrong turn. I'm pretty sure those are pre-computer "renderings," not photographs. Totally dependent on what color crayon the artist used.
The most accurate, non sun-faded information would be obtained from owners who had one back in the day, or their pictures. Or even better, if you could
find someone in Ford's Trim Shop in Quality Control who inspected them when received. (Dreaming!!!!)
There's no way to tell if the Horse Strip and Bolsters matched, 50 years later.
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Bryan,
If they're renderings, they're pretty good. The GT ad is in a magazine page that's about 10.5" x 13.5". And while the picture is kinda "grainy" it looks detailed enough to be a photograph.
Of course, the most accurate information would be from people like Jim, who have had the car since new (or near new). I continue to scan Ebay for "survivor" pictures like some I've posted already. I'm not sure where else I can get accurate info.
I might just have to keep the footnote disclaimer until more information comes to light.
Otherwise, I think the table is done and ready for the library. It should probably be posted together with the MPC fabric pages and Ditzler color code page.
I can send Jeff my work if he wishes.
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Pete, first off, I think you have done a great job with this color code project! It will be of great help to many people.
For the photos mentioned in the last few postings, I agree with Bryan. Ford often used a "base" photo and colored it with whatever they wanted - seen many examples of this in their advertising. The same photo with the same car but colored differently or even with different chrome moldings.
best regards,
Claes
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Here are some shots of an original Ivy Gold/White Pony interior illustrating the darker pony inserts on an original car. I believe this darker insert is a feature of all of the Pony interiors.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rockhouse66/DSC00040.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/rockhouse66/DSC00041-1.jpg)
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The rear seats have the darker insert, the front's do not.
Jim
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The rear seats have the darker insert, the front's do not.
Jim
Right or wrong, that makes no sense to me at all.
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I think that with the exception of a black interior, ALL other colors of the "pony" interior had the different color of pony panel in the seat covers. In addition to being a different color, the insert material is also different being stiffer and a slicker material without the crinkle grain. The color of the insert in my mind is typically very close to that of the secondary color in the interior. That is to say that the insert panel in the seat will be very close in color to that of the dash pad and the speaker grille and the windshield posts. Not sure but Distinctive may still replicate this feature, but TMI does not. Just one of the little details that has slipped away with reproduction parts that I would like to see corrected. Calemco was a company who once made Mustang interior that had the correct color inserts but they have gone the way of many other manufacturers and are no longer in business. Anyone have a set of recently made Distinctive covers that can check to see if they still have the two color deluxe seat covers?
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Thanks, Jim Wood & Murf for adding your research to the project.
I agree with you that "most" of the pony interiors had the darker insert color. The only question in my mind is the blue pony interior. With the example that Jim shared of his car's interior, I know of at least two blue pony interiors that have the same color insert as the bolster color. The other car being one displayed in a Mustang Monthly article of a car given to Lee Iacocca by his wife. That being said, I have seen other blue inserts that appear to be a different shade than the bolster. This has prompted my suggestion that there may have been differences in supplier material.
The fabric swatches in the MPC don't go so far as to give examples of the insert material. But a close-up of Jim Wood's seat cover photo shows the difference that Murf describes.
Jim Wood: Your picture looks like the rear seat inserts are a different color than the front - with the front being a little "grayer" but I chalked this up to the lighting effect of the photo with the sun coming thru the windshield while the rear seat stayed in the shadows. Since you saw this in person, what was your recollection of the two?
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Your picture looks like the rear seat inserts are a different color than the front - with the front being a little "grayer" but I chalked this up to the lighting effect of the photo with the sun coming thru the windshield while the rear seat stayed in the shadows. Since you saw this in person, what was your recollection of the two?
I believe they are the same, with the visual difference being caused by fading and/or lighting.
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Here's another example of the dark pony inserts. This time on an original red rear seat.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160887550919?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Hi Pete,
first of all: you (and all the others who helped) did a great job with the list!
Unfortunately i didn't have time to help last year :'(
I got a question concerning the color of the A-pillar of the "Deluxe Interior - Code F Series".
Are you sure that the A-pillar is always color-coded and not parchment?
I haven't seen any Fx-code cars with a different color than parchment yet and i'd assume the color scheme is comparable to the D-codes ("Standard Interior - Code C & D Series) - there the A-pillar is always parchment.
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I got a question concerning the color of the A-pillar of the "Deluxe Interior - Code F Series".
Are you sure that the A-pillar is always color-coded and not parchment?
This help - a couple of examples - Deluxe interior
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/66%20Mustang/66%20Int/6F07T736319psint_zps54586688.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/66%20Mustang/66%20Int/6R08A117445underwheel_zps7a7c730f.jpg)
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/66%20Mustang/66%20Int/6R07A159012apillar_zps73f0cc38.jpg)
For the standard interiors with "appointments" the A pillars look to be the interior color example - Parchment/Aqua the A pillars are Parchment
D9 Example
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/66%20Mustang/66%20Int/6F09C297732frntintd9_zpsde315a19.jpg)
And a different code
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/66%20Mustang/66%20Int/6F09C255071int_zpsc6a8341c.jpg)
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Thanks Jeff!
Whatching the pics (which seem to be a mix of 6x and Fx interior codes), i'd say that the color of the A-Pillar is connected to the color of the metal part of the door. If you got a 6x Interior - it's color coded, if you got a Fx Interior it's parchment.
Am i right?
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Yes, I agree. Good catch!
I'll change and update accordingly.
Pete
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Sorry to bring up an old post but just want to confirm for a club member that 9295 is the correct black for interior code 26 on a 1966 Mustang built in New jersey
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Sorry to bring up an old post but just want to confirm for a club member that 9295 is the correct black for interior code 26 on a 1966 Mustang built in New jersey
Who's number is that?
Jim
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Who's number is that?
Jim
That should be from from a Ditzler/PPG color chip for 1966 interior colors.
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Sorry to bring up an old post but just want to confirm for a club member that 9295 is the correct black for interior code 26 on a 1966 Mustang built in New jersey
As listed in the 65-66 section of the Library on the site - Part way down the page ;)
- Paint Codes, 1965-6 Interior & Exterior - Information and reprints of period paint codes NEW
1965 Paint Codes
1966 Paint Codes
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Hi Guys,
Loving this thread but just wondering if a spreadsheet has been done for the 65 model yet?
Would also like to know if anyone has a current formula for the 65 interior Red Ditzler #71315?
Keep up the great work,
Dan.
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Hi,
i'm working on it but it's not easy to put the last pieces together ;)
Will post the current status of all three versions (64.5, 65, 66) - see attachments.
Have a nice day!
Paul
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Thanks Jeff!
Whatching the pics (which seem to be a mix of 6x and Fx interior codes), i'd say that the color of the A-Pillar is connected to the color of the metal part of the door. If you got a 6x Interior - it's color coded, if you got a Fx Interior it's parchment.
Am i right?
My F2 interior is all Parchment except for the carpet,dash pad,speaker grille and 2 moulding pieces at the bottom of the windshield on the dash pad. So yes A pillar colour is parchment.
Pete--how do I print the chart ?
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Question on the seat belts for a 1966 color code 65 (red poly and burgundy poly). The seat belts in Pete's latest file show red, but Bob Perkins 56 mile car with deluxe interior has black seat belts. I'd assume these were supposed to be red, but why are they black in Bob's car? Can't imagine he has the wrong seat belts in there...