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Showing & Judging => Mid-America/Team Shelby Judging => Topic started by: mikeljgt500kr on May 30, 2015, 10:07:18 PM

Title: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on May 30, 2015, 10:07:18 PM
Here is my long time friend and baby, newly restored being loaded to return home to me, and ready to go to Tulsa.  Maybe some people from here will be there?
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: caspian65 on May 30, 2015, 10:11:35 PM
Cool, congrats!  Must be a good feeling for it to be finished.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: J_Speegle on May 30, 2015, 10:55:05 PM
Have a safe trip.   Looks good....
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on May 30, 2015, 11:05:39 PM
Thanks guys, since I am a bare novice at this kind of Ford judging, not sure if this is a Team Shelby event or a SAAC event.  Just know they judge these cars in both and even MCA too.  Luckily, I have been a member of all three for many years, so hope I have my bases covered with membership cards……. :)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: J_Speegle on May 31, 2015, 02:17:49 AM
Thanks guys, since I am a bare novice at this kind of Ford judging, not sure if this is a Team Shelby event or a SAAC event.............

Tulsa has had changes in the judging practices for the Concours in recent years. Recently its had more formal (but still much less formal than MCA or SAAAC)  judging than in the earlier years, when it was basically IMHO,  a tune-up for the annual SAAC national event that the event had been for years. Bob Gaines (member here) was a big part of that process before and currently along with John Brown.  Of course this is only a reference to the "Concours Show" part of the event since most of the event is racing, swap meet, parking lot show and multiple get togethers around the town and area those weekends.

In the more recent years we've judged cars just about any time of the day, any day in all kinds of locations - all with the agreement of the owners. Often in an attempt to get them done before before hand and stay out of the heat and sun. In other examples cars shown inside the hotel might get judged in the middle of the day or around/after midnight

You will not see as many judges as you will see at SAAC or often even MCA but the job gets done ;) Mid-America is typically not a training show where we bring on new judges and show them the ropes. You should see the same faces (judges) that you would likely see judging at an MCA and/or SAAC event

Not sure where or how Team Shelby fits into the Mid-America Meet this year ..... not my area of involvement.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 31, 2015, 02:39:58 AM
Tulsa has had changes in the judging practices for the Concours in recent years. Recently its had more formal (but still much less formal than MCA or SAAAC)  judging than in the earlier years, when it was basically IMHO,  a tune-up for the annual SAAC national event that the event had been for years. Bob Gaines (member here) was a big part of that process before and currently along with John Brown.  Of course this is only a reference to the "Concours Show" part of the event since most of the event is racing, swap meet, parking lot show and multiple get togethers around the town and area those weekends.

In the more recent years we've judged cars just about any time of the day, any day in all kinds of locations - all with the agreement of the owners. Often in an attempt to get them done before before hand and stay out of the heat and sun. In other examples cars shown inside the hotel might get judged in the middle of the day or around/after midnight

You will not see as many judges as you will see at SAAC or often even MCA but the job gets done ;) Mid-America is typically not a training show where we bring on new judges and show them the ropes. You should see the same faces (judges) that you would likely see judging at an MCA and/or SAAC event

Not sure where or how Team Shelby fits into the Mid-America Meet this year ..... not my area of involvement.
The Mid America Ford and Shelby Nationals has not been sponsored by Team Shelby for a number of years now .Team Shelby concentrates on the late model cars and the concours portion of the event in Tulsa has always been for the 65-70 Shelby and Ford performance cars even when Team Shelby sponsored the show. The best description of the judging criteria follows a combination of MCA and SACC practices. At the end of the day concours correctness is a constant from one venue to another. I believe this year they are trying to judge the concours class cars on Friday so that will be all completed by show time on Sunday. The deadline for concours registration has now passed for this years show.   
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on May 31, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Thanks Bob and Jeff for the info.  Yes, the judging is on Friday at a remote site about 8 miles from the Marriott Southern Hills, I will be there.

PS, I figured Team Shelby had little/nothing to do with the Tulsa event when I posted about it over on that forum asking about it and got nothing but silence. :)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: Smokey 15 on May 31, 2015, 10:42:06 AM
 Looks good, but I sure am waiting for the close-ups when you get it home.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on May 31, 2015, 11:41:28 AM
Thanks, here is a close-up of the engine compartment, more to follow when I get it home on my lift.  The chassis is amazing.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: ruppstang on May 31, 2015, 02:04:59 PM
Beautiful, who did the work?
Marty
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: rodster on May 31, 2015, 02:47:45 PM
Mr Tim Lea.  In his new shop.  ;)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: specialed on May 31, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
The Tulsa concours event is judged inside on a lift the only really accurate way to truly judge a car with lights & many trained eyes so you can see every detail part of a the car with no interfearance with the weather. The cars judged in the lobby are there for 3 days so plenty of time to judge them with lights & crawling around on the carpet having plenty of time & plenty of help to judge them. Judging cars inside where its kool & not being rushed by changing weather is a pleasure especially for the OLD judges. :)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 31, 2015, 04:27:13 PM
The Tulsa concours event is judged inside on a lift the only really accurate way to truly judge a car with lights & many trained eyes so you can see every detail part of a the car with no interfearance with the weather. The cars judged in the lobby are there for 3 days so plenty of time to judge them with lights & crawling around on the carpet having plenty of time & plenty of help to judge them. Judging cars inside where its kool & not being rushed by changing weather is a pleasure especially for the OLD judges. :)
And ever more HUSHKY ones  ;)  :)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: TLea on June 01, 2015, 09:59:16 PM
The Tulsa concours event is judged inside on a lift the only really accurate way to truly judge a car with lights & many trained eyes so you can see every detail part of a the car with no interfearance with the weather.
Lifts are only for div 1 cars
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: rodster on June 01, 2015, 10:11:10 PM
I thought you were going to say lifts are only to aid old, husky judges to get up off the floor.  ;D
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: J_Speegle on June 01, 2015, 11:45:59 PM
I thought you were going to say lifts are only to aid old, husky judges to get up off the floor.  ;D

Likely not on the show field but a possibility at one of the nightly functions. Tulsa can be a very colorful/entertaining show at night

Adjusted the old Team Shelby heading to better reflect the event. Likely will remove TS in the future
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: specialed on June 02, 2015, 01:25:31 AM
so TS now stands for Tulsa Show    :)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: J_Speegle on June 02, 2015, 05:22:31 PM
so TS now stands for Tulsa Show    :)

Or Team Special  :o  (inside joke)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on June 02, 2015, 06:24:00 PM
Lifts are only for div 1 cars

A pity, as the underside is probably the best part of the whole restoration, and nobody sees it but me on my lift at home? :)
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 02, 2015, 08:28:43 PM
I believe Special Ed is lobbying for all cars to be done on a lift unless hotel lobby displayed cars .
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: TLea on June 02, 2015, 10:40:08 PM
I believe Special Ed is lobbying for all cars to be done on a lift unless hotel lobby displayed cars .
Yeah but who listens to him?  ;D
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: specialed on June 03, 2015, 12:11:25 AM
haven't we done div 11 cars on the lift in the past time pemitting at Tulsa?
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: Bob Gaines on June 03, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
haven't we done div 11 cars on the lift in the past time pemitting at Tulsa?
yes.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: J_Speegle on June 03, 2015, 01:40:07 AM
haven't we done div 11 cars on the lift in the past time pemitting at Tulsa?

Just depends on who the judge is
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on June 16, 2015, 08:53:16 PM
Locked and loaded, on the way to Tulsa…...
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: J_Speegle on June 16, 2015, 10:03:24 PM
Locked and loaded, on the way to Tulsa…...

Have a safe and uneventful trip there and home
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on June 16, 2015, 10:14:29 PM
Thanks Jeff, let's hope TS Bill stays away from the events, the judging will be OK in the rain, since it is indoors, but all the track and parade events need clear skies!
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on June 20, 2015, 08:45:44 PM
Judging is finished and I want to thank Pete and Don for their hard work judging.  And I was very happy to finally meet Jeff and Pete and Bob in person.  Some shots from the judging.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: azscj on June 21, 2015, 03:56:44 AM
Any other pictures from Kurt's place?  I recognize the Twister and the white Boss9 in the photos.  Where are the purple cars?
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on June 21, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
Yes, I took one more of the side wall, where he has a yellow '68 KR and a yellow '68 1/2 CJ, as well as a Shelby Raptor and a new GT500 still in the wrapper, and several more.  The purple cars are '71 Boss 351s and '71 429CJ cars, all very rare.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: midlife on June 21, 2015, 08:15:40 PM
Any idea what the wires are for that snake out of the box on the right?  One seems to go up into the Raptor's LH front wheel well.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: drummingrocks on June 21, 2015, 10:08:34 PM
Any idea what the wires are for that snake out of the box on the right?  One seems to go up into the Raptor's LH front wheel well.

Jumper box/life support?  Just kidding!   ;D
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on June 22, 2015, 07:59:54 AM
Any idea what the wires are for that snake out of the box on the right?  One seems to go up into the Raptor's LH front wheel well.

I am not seeing that, the only wires from the trailer to the Raptor are the plug for the electric brakes/lighting, and the emergency breakaway wire that gets attached to the tailgate inside.  And both are hidden from view in that picture.
Title: Re: My KR is finished and ready for Tulsa
Post by: WT8095 on June 22, 2015, 09:18:10 AM
Jumper box/life support?  Just kidding!   ;D

It is life support, in a way. Appears to be a quad battery tender. I wonder if it can make four batteries explode simultaneously? (See other threads for discussion of concerns about battery chargers...)