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Offline 68NordicCat

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Heater Box Brads/Rivets
« on: November 30, 2015, 12:13:44 AM »
Had to drill out several of these brads/rivets (see pic) in order to do some fiberglass repair work on my heater box. Does anyone know where to find or what can be used as a replacement fastener (don't want to use pop rivets). Thanks.
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Re: Heater Box Brads/Rivets
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 08:48:52 AM »
I don't know the correct size, but they're called semi-tubular rivets. Some places to start looking:

http://www.valleyfastener.com/semi-tubular-rivets.html
http://rivetsonline.com/rivets-en/semi-tubular-rivets.html
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Re: Heater Box Brads/Rivets
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »
The heater box ones are usually different than normal semi-tubular rivets.  The back side has a sunburst pattern when squeezed, probably to keep from damaging the heater box material and hold stronger.
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Re: Heater Box Brads/Rivets
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 10:04:56 AM »
Looks like a 'splash tool' is used to make the pattern using semi-tubular rivets:

An example here (scroll down a bit):  http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/tools/tools.html
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Re: Heater Box Brads/Rivets
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 10:37:59 AM »
Perfect, guys. Thanks. The tubular rivet term is exactly what I was looking for. Now that I know what to google, I've seen the tool called a rivet peening tool also. Will see what I can find and report back on progress.

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Re: Heater Box Brads/Rivets
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 02:00:21 PM »
There is a special rivet that uses the "splash" staking tool. The rivet comes with the retaining prongs already formed, the tool spreads them. The special rivets are available at http://rivetsonline.com/rivets-en/semi-tubular-rivets.html but what is made and stocked is not the same as the originals. Originals have more prongs (I think either 6 or 8) then the current ones available (I think 4 prong). That's the difference. I researched this several years back looking for the exact original rivet but came up zero.
The heater box ones are usually different than normal semi-tubular rivets.  The back side has a sunburst pattern when squeezed, probably to keep from damaging the heater box material and hold stronger.
Rivets installed on soft material (plastic, leather) usually use a washer to spread the load mostly at the tube end. The alternative is the multi-prong rivet that grips over a wide area - spreading the load. The prong design makes it difficult to remove without some damage to the material it holds.
The best option is to use the prong type even though it has less. The next option is to use a semi-tubular type with a washer as a backing. The semi-tubular requires a special pair of dies and an expensive rivet tool ($150-$300). Unfortunately, some of the rivets on a heater box are located where an extended post to mount the die and that requires either an arbor press of one of the large 20 ton types. Overkill? No, it's the best way of staking the rivets. 
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