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Offline 67gtasanjose

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2016, 02:27:05 PM »
First paint, finally... A rare colour being applied today on this year and body style. More factory "N" Codes (paint) out there, but some have chosen to apply other colours. Thoughts? Cheers.

<3 love it! Rare colors are cool! Looking authentic on a car, even better! As I mentioned before, though this is kinda a "girlie color", that 429 CJ powerplant removes any thoughts of "weakness"  8)
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2016, 03:38:17 PM »
This is where the heart starts racing.  That is definitely going to be a unique combination.  Soothing exterior color belying the monster breathing under the hood.  It will be cool to see in full body color.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2016, 05:17:11 PM »
Just curious. Do you know why they masked of the body to paint out the areas they have?  As you can tell I am not a body man, but I try to learn every time I can.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2016, 06:40:14 PM »
Just curious. Do you know why they masked of the body to paint out the areas they have?  As you can tell I am not a body man, but I try to learn every time I can.

Likely a control thing :(  Painters like to do a section at a time. Sometimes this leads to more work or "unnatural" outcomes but IMHO painters often have difficulties accepting new practices but like to stay in their comfort zone.  Or it might just be the fumes  ------------- Just kidding ::)
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2016, 10:08:57 AM »
Thank you.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 12:38:09 PM »
Likely a control thing :(  Painters like to do a section at a time. Sometimes this leads to more work or "unnatural" outcomes but IMHO painters often have difficulties accepting new practices but like to stay in their comfort zone.  Or it might just be the fumes  ------------- Just kidding ::)

 Control is important when it comes to paint. Most restoration shop painters try to replicate factory procedures. As you know the fenders, hood , front valance, headlight buckets etc. were painted separately. The undercarriage and engine bay were painted separately. Painting the inside of the trunk and interior sheet metal prior to the exterior is necessary to replicate factory overspray patterns unless you have two painters and a oven as Ford Assembly plants. Yes, often it takes extra time and expertise to do whatever it takes to replicate factory paint. Not sure what you mean by Painters having difficulties accepting new practices? I was not aware practices of painting a Mustang have changed?  Maybe you are referencing new paints and application methods? It's My opinion that you need to experience the "fumes" to fully understand paint and Body.

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 01:46:29 PM »
 Wow. Don't know how I missed this thread ("fumes" maybe?).  I really enjoy progress pics and text of a restoration done right.  The pastel blue will look great. What color top and guts?
 BTW, Back in the late '70s I was brokering cars. A pastel blue ('73 if I recall), with charcoal graphics, Mach1 came in. Loaded, but powered by a 302, 2bbl., so not exactly fast. It was a very good looking car. Got a lot of looks.

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 02:05:20 PM »
Control is important when it comes to paint. Most restoration shop painters try to replicate factory procedures. As you know the fenders, hood , front valance, headlight buckets etc. were painted separately. .................

Think that maybe were the difference stems from. Allot of owners here and in general don't have their cars painted by "restoration shops" either by choose or as a result of their budget. Sure we can agree that not all "restorations shops" are equal in their abilities, knowledge or facilities. Also for many of these places, they don't paint "Mustangs or Shelbys" - they paint cars. Trying to help educate, help and direct in those situations - either directly or through the owner is often a task and the basis for most of my comments.

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 02:38:17 PM »
I agree Jeff's post completely.  In a different thread, I describe my 'experience' with painters who do not understand the difference between restorations and resto-mods. I will be seeking a real restoration shop for the 3rd paint.

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2016, 10:40:33 PM »
Back to business... threw in another shot of the inside trunk lid that has been painted and clear coated but not yet sanded. trying to get the colour across to people if I can.

"Smokey" to answer your question, the car will have a white interior with white top (as per factory). Cheers.
That will be sharp!  As for any criticism from anyone: To quote a Ricky Nelson line, "You know you can't please everyone, so you've got to please yourself".

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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2016, 10:35:58 AM »
That Heinz ketchup song comes to mind.  ANTICIPATION.........  I found a 73 Pastel Blue convertible (H-code) for sale in a barn last week.  Pretty rough shape. Owner said he bought it out of New Orleans after Katrina for the motor and transmission.  The car would have needed a lot work. To much for me right now. He did have a nice 73 Cougar convertible that was running and driving. Triple white car. Almost tempted on that one for $3K. It was a solid car just needed a trunk floor.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2016, 03:54:43 PM »
Very nice.  Looks like you may have it back at home pretty soon to get your hands working on it.  That did have the flat applique panel on the back between the taillights correct?  Here is a factory image of the blackout applied to the inner sides of the taillights and around the gas filler hole so it would blend with the trim panel.  OK could not find the image out of the factory manual on this computer. This is how I did it on my car.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2016, 05:01:43 PM »
put it on a trailer and bring it on to the show to put in display class as a work in progress. you'd be surprised how much attention it will receive.
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2016, 06:04:26 PM »
not onerous at all. display entry fee is only $20 and for that class you do not need to be a member.    http://www.wnymustangclub.com/WNYSMCCS2016.htm
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Re: '71 429 Convertible J Code Restoration
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2016, 03:32:33 PM »
That is a lot of paint
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