1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year > 1964 1/2 - 1965
65-66 original u-joints - any pictures?
C9ZZ-16228-B:
I'm trying to get more info on 65-66 u-joints, particularly the inside lock ring type. Does anyone have any pictures of originals? I've been looking around and can't find any pictures, only of the outside lock ring variety.
Were assembly line joints not drilled for a grease fitting, or did some come with a plug (like some of the service replacements)?
Did assembly line rear joints have a strap welded across the two 1-1/8" caps? It makes sense that they would...if so, is that something that is looked for in concourse judging?
Are plugged joints allowed in concourse judging? I saw in the MCA rule book it said no grease fittings.
thanks,
Garrett
Bob Gaines:
--- Quote from: C9ZZ-16228-B on March 21, 2017, 12:32:40 PM ---I'm trying to get more info on 65-66 u-joints, particularly the inside lock ring type. Does anyone have any pictures of originals? I've been looking around and can't find any pictures, only of the outside lock ring variety.
Were assembly line joints not drilled for a grease fitting, or did some come with a plug (like some of the service replacements)?
Did assembly line rear joints have a strap welded across the two 1-1/8" caps? It makes sense that they would...if so, is that something that is looked for in concourse judging?
Are plugged joints allowed in concourse judging? I saw in the MCA rule book it said no grease fittings.
thanks,
Garrett
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I have a assembly line 65 V8 driveshaft that still has the tack welded strap to hold the caps on prior to installing on rear end yoke on the assemblyline . I keep it for reference. The U joint has a "pressed " in zert and not a hex threaded in zert. This is contrary to what I had previously thought. I have been told by one of my peers that this was earlier 65 before Ford going to a pre lubed type with no zert .
C9ZZ-16228-B:
Thanks Bob, is that an inside or outside lock ring arrangement? Can you see any markings in the center of the joint?
J_Speegle:
I've nave never found any originals on San Jose built cars (nor other plants) nor seen any. Just my experience over the years.
Unfortunately this is an often replaced part so few originals survived through the years.
Here are two examples from early San Jose
5R07A129xx U joint - Yes a snail had taken up residence in this one.
5R07C118xx U joint
Not sure what the part number, year or application this one was for but it shows a number of markings that would help identify - at least from this supplier
As a side note I do have what is believed to be a very early Dearborn car (prior to when the other two plants were operating) with a factory U joint with a zert but only that one
C9ZZ-16228-B:
Thanks Jeff - I don't suppose there's a way to get a shaft diameter measurement off that joint, is there?
Is there a consensus on inside vs. outside lock ring for '65? Is there a changeover date or were they used simultaneously? Is it possible that Ford took on Borg Warner as an additional u-joint/slipyoke (or complete driveshaft assy?) supplier because they couldn't keep up with production?
thanks!
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