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Offline bwross

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67 Ash Tray Finish and Rivet Question
« on: August 16, 2014, 06:15:03 PM »
Greetings all,
On the coupe that I'm refurbishing the ashtray inner assembly (where the lighter resides) and it has been painted and smoke stained over the years.  I'm thinking that originally this area was just the natural metal appearance; can anyone confirm this assumption?

Likewise the actual ashtray; the exterior piece would be the dash color but what about the inner structure where the ashes landed.....natural metal appearance?

thanks,
Bruce
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Offline ruppstang

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 06:51:03 PM »
It was plated silver zinc the same as the inner part that receives it.
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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 08:00:26 PM »
It was plated silver zinc the same as the inner part that receives it.
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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 10:56:42 PM »
Thanks for the reply Marty.  I guess at this point the big question is how do I get the assembly back to looking like it did at the factory?

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 11:05:36 PM »
The only way I know is to drill out the rivets and replate  the ashtray. The difficult part is installing the new tubular rivets as it takes a special tool to compress them evenly. There are those on this forum that have that tool. A different option would be to look for a original ash tray from a non smoker and repaint the front to your color.
Good luck Marty

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 11:53:55 PM »
The only way I know is to drill out the rivets and replate  the ashtray. The difficult part is installing the new tubular rivets as it takes a special tool to compress them evenly. There are those on this forum that have that tool. A different option would be to look for a original ash tray from a non smoker and repaint the front to your color.
Good luck Marty
Marty ,you will have to mask off to repaint so in that case if you don't do the re rivet , strip and replate the entire assembly and then mask off and repaint the front.
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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 08:25:29 AM »
strip and replate the entire assembly and then mask off and repaint the front.

I heard about the "rivet tool" idea before and I liked it (but don't own one) and was planning to go that route. I do have other items that will need to go out for zinc plating already (door latches and other misc. throughout the car) so tossing yet another item in isn't going to cost any more really.

This is another item of knowledge gleaned from the vast knowledge available here. Thanks!


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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2014, 09:39:13 AM »
Marty ,you will have to mask off to repaint so in that case if you don't do the re rivet , strip and replate the entire assembly and then mask off and repaint the front.
That is a good idea Bob.

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2014, 08:32:50 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback and discussion....guess now I'm going to decide how to approach this.  I'm thinking that drilling out the rivets and replacing would look best, but I'm not sure about the cost of the tool.

thanks
Bruce

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2014, 08:35:19 PM »
there is probably someone on here would loan you the tool for a small deposit. i don't have one though.....try a wanted ad.
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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 11:16:50 PM »
I think the tool costs around $250. You have to do a lot of riveting to come out on that one!

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2014, 10:49:44 AM »
I think the tool costs around $250. You have to do a lot of riveting to come out on that one!

Ouch...no kidding, that's an expensive tool unless you're riveting stuff right and left with it!
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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2014, 01:50:15 PM »
Thanks for all the feedback and discussion....guess now I'm going to decide how to approach this. I'm thinking that drilling out the rivets and replacing would look best, but I'm not sure about the cost of the tool.

thanks
Bruce
You think correctly. My option was in case you couldn't find a tool to rent or borrow one. The 250-400.00 price tag of buying one for a one or two time use can be hard to swallow.
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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2023, 08:47:06 PM »
Anyone have a picture or link to what the rivet tool looks like?

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Re: 67 Ash Tray finish?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2023, 09:20:34 PM »
Anyone have a picture or link to what the rivet tool looks like?

Found a few pictures by using the words "rivet tool" in the search feature
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