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Title: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on July 11, 2017, 03:03:54 PM
Thanks to my very close friend, I am now the owner of another classic Mustang. This car was purchased by my friend back in the early 90's for $800. It needed a lot of work back then and I cut my teeth on some of my first floor pan and frame rail repairs. This is also the first full car paint job I ever did. But, as time went on, with a new business starting and his family growing, he has finally admitted that it needs a better home than what he can give it. I will admit the car is not costing me anything, (we have never exchanged money for helping each other out), but I will be "trading" my time to help him with some odd jobs in return. Over the past few decades this car has seen it's original drivetrain rebuilt, the 289 engine , C4, and rear axle. Not to mention a complete full suspension rebuild as well as numerous cosmetic items. Its a bitter sweet ending on his part but he knows I have the time and know-how to get it back on its feet. While not planning on a concourse restoration to this car, I will be "restoring" it for a second time to make a nice driver/cruiser out of it. I hope that some of this car's info/build would help others on the site, in the hobby/community, in some way and I plan on using the info and tips from this valuable site to make this restoration even better than before.
 
I plan on posting the buck tag and door tag soon (he is still looking for the door tag) but the info that I know of so far is as follows:
1966  Mustang coupe, with a scheduled build date of 12/7/1965, Metuchen NJ
289 2V, C4 auto trans, 2:79 rear
Ford color "X" Vintage burgundy
Bench seat, black standard interior
DSO 16 Philadelphia

Original options:
Powersteering
Remote drivers mirror
Day/Night mirror
Deluxe seat belts
Seat belt warning light
Accent stripe (although he added the quarter ornaments when repainted)
AM radio
RP mouldings

Pics to follow...  I have a lot of work ahead of me but I know it' a diamond in the rough. More info to come!

Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on July 11, 2017, 03:04:28 PM
When it was in it's prime, 2011
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on July 11, 2017, 03:11:45 PM
A few from yesterday...  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on July 11, 2017, 03:12:32 PM
In a sad state now..
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: svo2scj on July 15, 2017, 08:29:26 PM
Kind of like it like that !   (Have enough cars I can't drive /READ WON'T DRIVE)

Mark
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: drummingrocks on July 16, 2017, 11:55:53 AM
I have its twin!  Vintage Burgundy '66 coupe with the bench seat........but mine's a 6-cylinder 3-speed.   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on July 17, 2017, 09:57:39 AM
Wow, that's very cool!  Here is my buck tag, curious if you have yours for your bench coupe?  And I thought buck tags get punched by inspectors??? I guess not in my case?  :o
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on August 07, 2017, 03:06:25 PM
 Hitting this project hard but only on the weekends.. Here are some updated pics of the engine compartment and heater box. The original heater box had a huge crack from the fresh air vent door up to the seal at the cowl vent. I was lucky enough to find another one local from one of my friends. The heater box I picked up has been stored for 30+ years and must have been scavenged early in life as it had the original 5K19 dated FOMOCO heater core and original white stripe heater hoses and tower clamps. I followed some previous post on cleaning and restoring the heater box and it worked out great for me.

I'm now installing new shocks and cleaning up the trunk and gas tank area before I start it up. It has had new floor pans but the frame rail supports are split with rust so they will get replaced soon. Also servicing the C4 with new fluid and filter to play it safe before I get it started and moving under its own power.

Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on August 28, 2017, 04:31:27 PM
More work being done to get her back on the road. Here are some updated pics of the engine, front floor support replacements, and interior panel repaints.. 
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: Hipo giddyup on August 28, 2017, 04:35:08 PM
Thanks to those who chimed in with what they have used for rattle can interior paint. I chose the Eastwood underhood black. Found it to be a great match to what I wanted as well as a very good spray nozzle and easy application.

I started by stripping the old paint off of the door, using a scrub brush to help loosen the paint off. Then a quick bath to neutralize the stripper. After drying I gently scuffed with a 3M gray pad before removing the old tape/paper. I then did a fresh re tape followed with a wipe down of a tag rag before lightly applying self-etching primer and final black topcoat.
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: J_Speegle on August 28, 2017, 08:38:12 PM
Going to move the thread over to the Member Restorations/Builds section    :)
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable
Post by: rrenz on August 30, 2017, 07:32:07 PM
Wow, that's very cool!  Here is my buck tag, curious if you have yours for your bench coupe?  And I thought buck tags get punched by inspectors??? I guess not in my case?  :o

Enjoying watching this come together. My Jan NJ coupe has no inspector punch on the buck tag either.
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on September 03, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
I now have the interior where I want it. All the wiring issues are sorted and interior panels painted. Next I'm working on getting the rust pitted roof sealed and primed. I made up a "bag" system where I could pour rust converter over the areas and let in sit overnight. Then I cleaned the area and used Eastwoods rust encapsulator to seal the metal. Next will be some filler to smooth everything out and a final primer. I am not going to paint this car until next spring so that gives me time to make sure the rust fix works and holds ( the car will likely be driven over the next few months).
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: jwc66k on September 03, 2017, 06:13:23 PM
It may be a bit late, but did you do some anti-rust treatment on the inside of the roof? A friend's 65 hardtop roof was vinyl covered and the vinyl turned out to be a moisture retaining feature (even in California). It was removed permanently for repainting. Even though the top looked "fair" in paint preparation, when the interior was done, there were traces of rust that came thru. Many words were spoken. It was corrected, and the roof repainted.
Jim
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: J_Speegle on September 04, 2017, 03:47:11 PM
I now have the interior where I want it. All the wiring issues are sorted and interior panels painted. Next I'm working on getting the rust pitted roof sealed and primed. I made up a "bag" system where I could pour rust converter over the areas and let in sit overnight. Then I cleaned the area and used Eastwoods rust encapsulator to seal the metal. Next will be some filler to smooth everything out and a final primer.

How are you going to get the filler to stick to the rust encapsulator?
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on September 05, 2017, 12:37:11 PM
 I do not think any rust has passed to the underside. Luckily it looked like just surface rust. The headliner and window gaskets are in great shape and fairly new so I will roll the dice and hope no issues down the road.

 As to Jeff's question, I scuffed over the encapsulator surface to allow the short strand fiberglass filler the ability to adhere. I have since put a few thin coats of filler over the areas and will sand most of it off. Then I intend to use a top coat filler , again in thin coats, to smooth things out before the primer. The encapsulator reminds me of the PPG epoxy primers in that it tends to ball up when sanded. Just with the epoxy primers, they need scuffed after so many days before any type of top coat goes over them. The roof had not dents or filler anywhere so I am really just killing the rust and filling the tiny craters left from the oxidation (and to prevent any more outbreaks). I will have very little filler left on the roof when I am finished but this will be necessary to get it ready for paint.

I also checked the Eastwood website and they followed this same procedure when repairing a pitted fender..  Sand to bare metal, rust kill the pitted area, fill with Encapsulator, sand off leaving encapsulator in the filled - pitted areas, filler and prime.

I hope to have a few more photos over the next week or so. Once I get the roof primed it will be new tires and tags.  ;D
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on September 13, 2017, 04:04:12 PM
Here are some recent pics of removing rust from the trunk lid. I did use rust encapsulator inside the trunk lid before I welded the new patch in place. ;)
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on September 13, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
 Overall pics of primer/sealer on the roof.
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on October 24, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
Here are some pics of repainting the styled wheels on this car. First I did a good cleaning followed by stripping off the old argent paint. Next was more cleaning using some steel wool, and then the lengthy process of taping. I used the rolled tape method so as not to get a sharp paint line (you can see gaps under the tape around the borders).  Light coats of the argent paint worked well here. I used some self etching primer to help the argent paint stick, before finally applied the argent paint itself. Since my intent is to drive this car I will not be going with bias ply tires. The procedure worked out great for restoring the original 66' styled wheels.
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on October 24, 2017, 11:42:44 AM
Here's the final result.
Title: Re: Another addition to the stable - 66 NJ V8
Post by: Hipo giddyup on January 11, 2018, 11:44:40 AM
 Haven't been so lucky lately with this build. After putting a few hundred ,miles on the car I kept noticing that it was continually blowing out antifreeze through the overflow hose. So much so that there was no antifreeze covering the cooling vents inside the radiator.  I became worried about a bad head gasket so I let the car warm up and removed the radiator cap. After a few seconds I noticed many bubbles and belches or air coming through the system. My gut was telling me that there must be a small connection between a cylinder and a water passage in the head gasket. I decided to replace the intake and head gaskets for piece of mind. Now this car has only about 8K miles on a full rebuild but it has sat a lot of this time over the past 15 years or so. It never ran rough and never had any instance of coolant on any of the plugs. Perhaps this was an issue that was just starting?

I was lucky enough to have to only cut one nut off of the exhaust stud and everything else was able to be removed without issue. I cleaned and checked the heads and there was no visible issues or cracks that I could see. The head gasket didn't really look too bad but then again some of it was destroyed by removing it. So new heads gaskets and intake gaskets were replaced and everything ran well and was going well until I noticed a small puddle of coolant on the passenger floor mat. Now I found that the original (and even date correct ) heater core for this car was now giving up. The following weekend I removed the restored heater box and replaced the heater core. Now I think I finally have things under control.
I also installed an overflow tank just to be sure the coolant level stays where the engine likes it. So far everything is working great and it's turning into a very nice driver!

After all of this, I also ended up replacing the C4 pan gasket , replacing the tranny fluid (again), and replaced the shifter shaft seal that had been leaking. That was something I had discussed here under the drivetrain section if interested in that discussion. Next I plan to start on the body work this spring and hopefully will have it painted before summer.