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Title: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 03, 2018, 04:42:17 PM
Looks like there was a server crash and theyíre rebuilding
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 03, 2018, 05:33:09 PM
OMG!  That's terrible!  But their Facebook page is still working.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: 69GT350H on January 03, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
No comment...
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: SCJSTU on January 10, 2018, 03:45:36 PM
down a week as of 1-10-18........hope they can get er fixed.....
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Chris Thauberger on January 10, 2018, 08:39:21 PM
Its actually kind of nice. Peaceful in a way. Not so much Tomfoolery over here  ;)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: rodster on January 10, 2018, 09:44:37 PM
Its actually kind of nice. Peaceful in a way. Not so much Tomfoolery over here  ;)

You are comparing apples and oranges.

The SAAC forum is part of a long established organization, a club with conventions, social events and discussions as well an excellent technical base.

Concours Mustang Forums, as the name implies is a forum for the Sharing, Showing, Judging & Restoring of Concours Mustangs.

You may not enjoy the 'Tomfoolery' on the SAAC forum but it's part of the character of the club and has been for many years.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 10, 2018, 09:52:37 PM
OMG! Still down?  How can we sort out SAAC Concours judging......... :)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: J_Speegle on January 10, 2018, 10:14:47 PM
Concours Mustang Forums, as the name implies is a forum for the Sharing, Showing, Judging & Restoring of Concours Mustangs.

We talked about adding "Shelby" to the name of this forum but figured the that would make the name too long and since they both shared allot of the same details and heritage it was a bit redundant. In any case both IMHO share allot of the same info, details and members.

Hope they get that site up soon and without a big loss of information or posts. Seen this happen to a few other sites and it hasn't always been pretty
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: carlite65 on January 10, 2018, 10:17:03 PM
'Hope they get that site up soon and without a big loss of information or posts. Seen this happen to a few other sites and it hasn't always been pretty.'

hi-pomustang.com comes to mind here. was never quite the same after resurrection.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Chris Thauberger on January 11, 2018, 12:12:38 AM
You are comparing apples and oranges.

The SAAC forum is part of a long established organization, a club with conventions, social events and discussions as well an excellent technical base.

Concours Mustang Forums, as the name implies is a forum for the Sharing, Showing, Judging & Restoring of Concours Mustangs.

You may not enjoy the 'Tomfoolery' on the SAAC forum but it's part of the character of the club and has been for many years.

Yup I'm aware, been a member since 1980. Didn't say that I did not enjoy it, just said it was peaceful without it.  :)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 11, 2018, 11:46:56 AM
The information in the database is invaluable (technical and non-technical), I hope it will be recovered.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: gjz30075 on January 11, 2018, 02:31:25 PM
Agreed!^^^^^      I hope their backups work   :-\   That's of course assuming they took backups.   
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 11, 2018, 03:12:51 PM
When the hi-po forum was rebuilt, none of the data from the old forum was merged over.  That was probably a big reason a lot of folks weren't too excited to rejoin and participate.  Most of us that give our time to help others hope that the information can be used in the future.  I personally use the search feature here and on other forums like the SAAC one on a regular basis.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 11, 2018, 08:39:52 PM
The information in the database is invaluable (technical and non-technical), I hope it will be recovered.

OMG!  Any chance they will lose all the SAAC Registry data?
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Chris Thauberger on January 11, 2018, 10:01:49 PM
OMG!  Any chance they will lose all the SAAC Registry data?

The Registries are not part of the forum.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 12, 2018, 04:14:20 PM
The Registries are not part of the forum.

Whew......good to know....... :)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Coralsnake on January 13, 2018, 01:29:08 PM
But, Coralsnake updates are UP!

www.thecoralsnake.com (http://www.thecoralsnake.com)

Click on the "what's new" button!

Check out the original  Ford Performance Team of Canada contribution.


Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Chris Thauberger on January 13, 2018, 02:29:34 PM
But, Coralsnake updates are UP!

www.thecoralsnake.com (http://www.thecoralsnake.com)

Click on the "what's new" button!

Check out the original  Ford Performance Team of Canada contribution.

RIGHT ON PETE. Nicely played.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Coralsnake on January 13, 2018, 06:24:26 PM
and one for Team Canada hey?
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: TXShelbyman on January 17, 2018, 12:11:50 AM
I'm really surprised they didn't have it backed up. Server 101.....
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Brant on January 17, 2018, 11:40:36 AM
Latest message:

logo SAACFORUM.COM is under reconstruction.

As you know, we had a massive failure at the Forum server two weeks ago.
We have made every effort to recover and repair...without success.

We are now in the process of creating Forum 2.0, with updated software and refined features.
This effort is being done in the background and hopefully will be online shortly.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your patience.

SAAC Pitcrew
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 17, 2018, 02:01:24 PM
This is what I got:


Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_FUNCTION, expecting ')' in /home/content/09/9057409/html/index.php on line 114
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 17, 2018, 02:07:27 PM
Latest message:

logo SAACFORUM.COM is under reconstruction.

As you know, we had a massive failure at the Forum server two weeks ago.
We have made every effort to recover and repair...without success.

We are now in the process of creating Forum 2.0, with updated software and refined features.
This effort is being done in the background and hopefully will be online shortly.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your patience.

SAAC Pitcrew
What a terrible loss. I know I did searches for info all of the time. I took it for granted that the library of knowledge would always be there. Just as important to me was the Past on friends interaction that are now all lost too. I can't help but wonder if the crash was the result of some malicious intent/attack by a outside entity.   
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: SCJSTU on January 17, 2018, 02:11:35 PM
wow, if all the forum posts are gone what a huge loss of info....

let this be a wake up call for all forums.......
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 17, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
I can tell you for sure that this forum is backed up regularly.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 17, 2018, 06:57:13 PM
What a terrible loss. I know I did searches for info all of the time. I took it for granted that the library of knowledge would always be there. Just as important to me was the Past on friends interaction that are now all lost too. I can't help but wonder if the crash was the result of some malicious intent/attack by a outside entity.   

It could have been those evil Russians........... ;D
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: rodster on January 17, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
What a terrible loss. I know I did searches for info all of the time. I took it for granted that the library of knowledge would always be there. Just as important to me was the Past on friends interaction that are now all lost too. I can't help but wonder if the crash was the result of some malicious intent/attack by a outside entity.   

+1

If all of the history and knowledge on the forum is in fact lost that would be worse than terrible.

One of my last posts was regarding the forum, the ownership and who should have access to it.  Maybe I should have asked the question sooner?

I always thought the club owned the forum and part of our dues went toward the keeping it alive and maintained. Someone mentioned recently the forum was owned by someone else.  Don't know if that was a joke or not but if not, something was seriously wrong and the club was asleep at the wheel.

I'm still hoping for the best, I can't imagine all of that information ---gone---.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: 69GT350H on January 18, 2018, 01:07:18 AM
+1

If all of the history and knowledge on the forum is in fact lost that would be worse than terrible.

One of my last posts was regarding the forum, the ownership and who should have access to it.  Maybe I should have asked the question sooner?

I always thought the club owned the forum and part of our dues went toward the keeping it alive and maintained. Someone mentioned recently the forum was owned by someone else.  Don't know if that was a joke or not but if not, something was seriously wrong and the club was asleep at the wheel.

I'm still hoping for the best, I can't imagine all of that information ---gone---.

SAACFORUM is not owned by SAAC, but it is the Offical forum of SAAC. As Rick told me, SAAC is not the Forum and the Forum is not SAAC. But the way I see it, the forum is the easiest and fastest way to communicate with SAAC and its members. Being a member of SAAC and not being a member of the SAAC Forum, is like, well, like it is right now.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Hipo giddyup on January 18, 2018, 09:46:05 AM
Maybe it was hacked by this "POOKIE" everyone talks about???? :)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 18, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
Maybe it was hacked by this "POOKIE" everyone talks about???? :)

Oh, good build, everyone on the SAAC forum was always after him.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 18, 2018, 03:11:45 PM
Maybe it was hacked by this "POOKIE" everyone talks about???? :)
The reality is that there are a number bad actors that would like to see SAAC fail for various reasons. Some with more money then others. The SAAC Forum by association is just the easiest thing to disrupt if someone wanted to be malicious about it. I suppose it could also be a random catastrophic failure. 
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: TXShelbyman on January 18, 2018, 08:09:06 PM
I hope Bob, Pete, Tim and the rest of the crew exercise there fingers well. The same questions will all be asked again....
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Coralsnake on January 18, 2018, 09:07:43 PM
 :o
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Coralsnake on January 18, 2018, 09:08:46 PM
Always willing to share, it has served me well.

Hopefully, they are back on track soon, big things are coming
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: gjz30075 on January 19, 2018, 05:40:20 AM
Well, I'm getting a login screen now  ;D  but with a message that my username doesn't exist.   Not sure if I have to re-register or that data
hasn't been imported yet :-\
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Chris Thauberger on January 19, 2018, 09:32:45 AM
My understanding was that all was lost so you will need to register again.

I would think registration would be available by the end of the day.


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/2850-190118083138.png)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 19, 2018, 10:13:41 AM
Yes, my login credentials also do not exist.  So it is a whole do-over I guess.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 19, 2018, 11:03:17 AM
That's the admin login page, it says they are still in maintenance mode.  Looks like everyone may have to re-register, but we'll see.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: rodster on January 19, 2018, 12:46:46 PM
That's the admin login page, it says they are still in maintenance mode.  Looks like everyone may have to re-register, but we'll see.

Oh my..... :(
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: 69GT350H on January 19, 2018, 02:17:34 PM
Hopefully there were some files they are able to recover. I am not familiar with the behind the scenes operations of SMF but as they are now going to version 2.x, there is usually a conversion utility for those who upgrade. SQL can be a pain to backup and restore though, and it's not just a simple matter of copying the files.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: C6ZZGT on January 20, 2018, 01:45:38 AM
Up and running now ! Need to reregister,go to it !
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 20, 2018, 10:34:04 AM
Good opportunity to drop participating in that forum.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: drummingrocks on January 20, 2018, 11:56:36 AM
SQL can be a pain to backup and restore though, and it's not just a simple matter of copying the files.

This.  Not sure how many people in IT we have on this board, but the thought of installing/migrating/maintaining SQL still makes me shudder.   :-[
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: J_Speegle on January 20, 2018, 03:11:36 PM
Up and running now ! Need to reregister,go to it !

Seems it's down again   :(

Got the

Service Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

screen. Feel sorry for all involved
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: camp upshur on January 20, 2018, 04:17:37 PM

Like so many here, having spent my entire life owning and being fully immersed in this, I ....
Well I donít want to give a whining rant as Iím sure everyone feels the same, I have three quick points to offer:

-It is simply incalculable what has been lost, and the present and future damage that has been done to our cars and hobby, both for us and for their future owners;
-despite the contributions (lost) by so many, and many who were either transitory or no longer with us, I would like to recognize a few who had shared their lifeís work (!) of expertise with us: j speegle, Bob, Brant, Pete, Charles, Randy and many more. The problem here is that this knowledge often came incidental to a running thread which gave so much depth and context. Worse- we are all running out of years eventually, but the info is valid forever to our hobby. Itís not like an in depth interview can begin to fill the factual loss. I viewed the lost forum as a peer reviewed technical library and a living component of my car (SFM5S339);
-I would have Ďno problemí continuing the high calibre of technical discussion here on this forum, for many respectful reasons.

Steve
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: jwc66k on January 20, 2018, 05:02:21 PM
Apparently the SAAC Forum is up. I note that the "new" look is using the same software company as this forum which might explain why it took as long as it did to reload.
Jim
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Brant on January 21, 2018, 12:38:05 PM
Like so many here, having spent my entire life owning and being fully immersed in this, I ....
Well I donít want to give a whining rant as Iím sure everyone feels the same, I have three quick points to offer:

-It is simply incalculable what has been lost, and the present and future damage that has been done to our cars and hobby, both for us and for their future owners;
-despite the contributions (lost) by so many, and many who were either transitory or no longer with us, I would like to recognize a few who had shared their lifeís work (!) of expertise with us: j speegle, Bob, Brant, Pete, Charles, Randy and many more. The problem here is that this knowledge often came incidental to a running thread which gave so much depth and context. Worse- we are all running out of years eventually, but the info is valid forever to our hobby. Itís not like an in depth interview can begin to fill the factual loss. I viewed the lost forum as a peer reviewed technical library and a living component of my car (SFM5S339);
-I would have Ďno problemí continuing the high calibre of technical discussion here on this forum, for many respectful reasons.

Steve

Steve,

Very well stated.

I guess all we can do at this point is look forward and build things back bit by bit.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: rodster on January 21, 2018, 06:47:37 PM
Yes, well said Steve.

It's not just the facts and figures that were lost but the stories and posts from many good folks, some of which are no longer with us.  As you said the forum was a living component and depth and context of the posts can not be duplicated.

Newcomers may not be able to comprehend what was lost but anyone that has been following the forum from the beginning will understand.

Despite the best efforts and intentions, what has been lost can never be rebuilt, but such is life.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: mikeljgt500kr on January 21, 2018, 10:48:01 PM
I will miss all the old Kiwi posts, and his many PMs to me as we bantered back and forth about the forum folks, lost forever, as he is, RIP.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 22, 2018, 10:17:16 AM
Thanks Steve.  While our main focus is to help others, building a library for future reference was always a key benefit.  This forum is coming up on 9 years this summer and I couldn't imagine losing all of our past discussions here.

In the past, Jeff and I have discussed expanding the Shelby sub-forums here on the site.  It would never be our intention to do that in an effort to take away from the SAAC forum, but understand if some may not be willing to participate there anymore.  If the members here would like to see that section expanded, we can certainly do that.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Paperback Writer on January 22, 2018, 12:58:37 PM
Not all is lost...

If you go to the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive, you can still see some of the old postings on the SAAC Forum.  It's kind of hit and miss on what the Archive captured and when (for example, clicking on some topics from the home page will go nowhere, but others are pretty deep).

Unfortunately, some of the more recent captures are just of the home page, but it looks like they got a pretty good snapshot of the Forum in the early 2015:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150315013439/http://saacforum.com/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20150315013439/http://saacforum.com/)

I hope this helps ease the pain a little...
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Hipo giddyup on January 23, 2018, 01:51:03 PM
I just re-registered on the SAAC forum this afternoon. I then went back in a few minutes later to have a look around and I'm getting a "connection timed out"? Anyone else??

Is the webpage still http://www.saacforum.com  ???  If I Google  SAAC forum and click that link it does the same thing, connection timed out..
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 23, 2018, 02:00:43 PM
Seems a little slow getting in today.  The URL should just be saacforum.com
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: silverton_ford on January 23, 2018, 03:40:51 PM
Slow for me too.  Ok, I'm glad I am not the only one.

I'm sure there will be little bugs to work out; which is expected for anything new.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: caspian65 on January 23, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
Slow for me too.  Ok, I'm glad I am not the only one.

I'm sure there will be little bugs to work out; which is expected for anything new.

It's the same forum software, just a newer version.  The slowness could be a regional issue or something with the hosting service.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: sah62 on January 23, 2018, 06:34:40 PM
The slowness could be a regional issue or something with the hosting service.

They appear to be running on a shared hosting platform operated by GoDaddy. High traffic volumes may be a cause for concern depending on the details of their hosting plan.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 23, 2018, 06:41:02 PM
They appear to be running on a shared hosting platform operated by GoDaddy. High traffic volumes may be a cause for concern depending on the details of their hosting plan.
The slowness seems to come and go today but mostly slow.
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: rodster on January 23, 2018, 08:45:39 PM
Thanks Steve.  While our main focus is to help others, building a library for future reference was always a key benefit.  This forum is coming up on 9 years this summer and I couldn't imagine losing all of our past discussions here.

In the past, Jeff and I have discussed expanding the Shelby sub-forums here on the site.  It would never be our intention to do that in an effort to take away from the SAAC forum, but understand if some may not be willing to participate there anymore.  If the members here would like to see that section expanded, we can certainly do that.


You guys do a great job here and certainly had the big picture in mind when you started this forum and I'm guessing a back up is a high priority. 

Coming up on 9 yrs?   :o  Wow really??

In order to avoid duplication I always posted any Shelby concours info on the SAAC site but will shift my focus here. 

Now if you could go back and capture all the data that was lost and port it here that would be great!

Rod
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: J_Speegle on January 23, 2018, 09:04:49 PM
You guys do a great job here and certainly had the big picture in mind when you started this forum and I'm guessing a back up is a high priority. 

Thank you for the kind comments and yes back up is very important to us. Charles does a great job on that side of the house.  The concern is one of the reasons you will often see me post duplicate threads here and elsewhere where I will post pictures and text from something I posted on another board so that members here get the benefit from the post also


Now if you could go back and capture all the data that was lost and port it here that would be great!

Not sure how others would feel about that.  Might create ownership questions and hard feelings. Not something we boldly want to charge into ::)
Title: Re: SAAC Forum down
Post by: rodster on January 23, 2018, 10:02:40 PM
Thank you for the kind comments and yes back up is very important to us. Charles does a great job on that side of the house.  The concern is one of the reasons you will often see me post duplicate threads here and elsewhere where I will post pictures and text from something I posted on another board so that members here get the benefit from the post also


Not sure how others would feel about that.  Might create ownership questions and hard feelings. Not something we boldly want to charge into ::)

I know Charles is very sharp when it comes to IT stuff, and concours too.  I'd like to be sharp at just one thing!  ;)

The comment about porting over the lost data was not serious as I'm sure it's lost forever and was only a miracle wish.   The SAAC forum is now a lost treasure.

Should anyone be able to recover all the lost data, they would no doubt be considered a hero regardless of ownership.