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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 => 1967 - 1968 => Topic started by: Bossbill on January 12, 2018, 11:33:58 PM

Title: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: Bossbill on January 12, 2018, 11:33:58 PM
After reading the fuel sender thread (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=13744.0) it occurred to me that Gaffer Tape is used in other locations, other than to hold down the fuel sender wire in the trunk.
On my 67 (Deluxe/Fastback) it is also used on the sills -- both sides -- to keep the wiring in place before the sill plates were installed.

Since we have to buy a roll of Gaffer anyway (2"?), do we know of other locations where this tape was used?
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: jwc66k on January 13, 2018, 12:19:47 AM
Bill,
Have you got a set of the Mustang Assembly Manuals for your car? The use of tape is documented there.
Jim
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 13, 2018, 01:41:18 AM
Off the top of my head the only addition spot I can think and the only location where the tape will be seen would be over the taillight buckets bulb hole. Its thought that this was done at the supplier so that nothing would fall into the taillight light.

Not sure they were all 2" wide. Have measured the 67 applications
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: 67gta289 on January 13, 2018, 06:31:55 AM
what kind of tape was used to hold the capillary tube on the A/C evaporator case? 
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: 67gtasanjose on January 13, 2018, 08:50:37 AM
what kind of tape was used to hold the capillary tube on the A/C evaporator case?

Looks a lot like what was used at the door sill channel. A picture (below) of my unit before restoring has a shadow of what size/length was used there.
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: ruppstang on January 13, 2018, 10:29:29 AM
Gaffers tape was used under the door sill plates, it covers the hole at the base of the rear door pillars, it wrapped over the rear torque box pinch weld under the rear seat, it held down the fuel sender wiring in the trunk, it covered the tail light housing and hood signal housing holes, it was used on the evaporator case, it sealed the bottom of the instrument cluster, it held the steering column wiring to the column, it was used to cover holes under the door panel and was used to secure the console and AT wiring to the hump on the floor.
I probably missed some but as you can see it was used through out the car.
Marty
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: jwc66k on January 13, 2018, 12:18:34 PM
A word of caution, the tape used on my 66 San Jose Mustangs was (very) dark gray on the "sticky" side, the same color as the exposed side. Gaffer's tape may be white on the "sticky" side. I don't know what the color was on the "sticky" side for 67 on applications.
(Gaffer's tape is currently used to hold down the cabling of musical groups to the stage to keep people from getting tangled up.)
Jim
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 13, 2018, 01:37:35 PM
what kind of tape was used to hold the capillary tube on the A/C evaporator case?

The same
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 13, 2018, 01:39:09 PM
Gaffers tape was used under the door sill plates, it covers the hole at the base of the rear door pillars, it wrapped over the rear torque box pinch weld under the rear seat, .............

Marty looked but could not find any San Jose 67's with the tape used under or near the back seat. Maybe we're thinking of two different places. And also never seen it used on the steering column on a San Jose 67. Is this in a visible location when the car is assembled? 


This is the area I think your describing. Nothing evident here as there was in other years. Example is from really close to the OP's cars VIN.

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118180844.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118181111.jpeg)




Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: Bossbill on January 13, 2018, 02:02:48 PM
Bill,
Have you got a set of the Mustang Assembly Manuals for your car? The use of tape is documented there.
Jim

Jim,

   I do not. That is probably a mistake -- more so as I'm usually a facts and data kind of guy.

I appreciate Marty's listing and see that I really need to get the manuals. For some reason I thought I could do without.

[on edit -- just ordered the 67 Assembly Manual Kit of 6 manuals]
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 13, 2018, 07:52:50 PM
For others here are some pictures of some fo the locations being mentioned for this specific application


From 7R03C1883xx
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118182428.jpeg)


Trunk fuel sender wire application

7R01C1149xx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118184628.jpeg)


7R01S1974xx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118184707.jpeg)


7R02C1721xx Drivers side fell off. Tape location (green arrow)  tape (blue arrow)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118184750.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118184807.jpeg)


7R03C1883xx

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118184917.jpeg)


Taillight bulb hole covering

7R15988x

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118185101.jpeg)


7R16808x

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118185138.jpeg)


Hood turn indicator bulb cover

7R03C1883xx - Sorry for the blurry picture    ???

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118185159.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: ruppstang on January 13, 2018, 08:34:18 PM
Marty looked but could not find any San Jose 67's with the tape used under or near the back seat. Maybe we're thinking of two different places. And also never seen it used on the steering column on a San Jose 67. Is this in a visible location when the car is assembled? 


This is the area I think your describing. Nothing evident here as there was in other years. Example is from really close to the OP's cars VIN.

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118180844.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-130118181111.jpeg)

Here is a picture of our 68 HCS showing the gaffers tape on the rear torque box pinch weld. It was not used on fastbacks as you showed. I think it may have been used on convertibles too. I can not tell for sure in this picture.

BTW Jim the convertible picture shows the 67 gaffers tape to have a white back.
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 13, 2018, 08:38:46 PM
Here is a picture of our 68 HCS showing the gaffers tape on the rear torque box pinch weld. It was not used on fastbacks as you showed. I think it may have been used on convertibles too. I can not tell for sure in this picture.

Thanks

Will look through the 67 pictures to see if its there on 67 coupes and or convertibles Just hope I have enough stripped interior 67 San Jose coupes and convetible
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: rockhouse66 on January 14, 2018, 01:02:47 PM
I seem to recall some tape was used around the air extractor area on my '66, so you might check that area on your '67 when you get the assembly manuals.
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 14, 2018, 03:28:43 PM
I seem to recall some tape was used around the air extractor area on my '66, so you might check that area on your '67 when you get the assembly manuals.

Checked real cars and didn't find them on 67's. At least on all the unrestored fastbacks that year and plant I found

I also recalled them from 66 - things change like in other areas where 66 San Jose did one thing and 67 didn't for some unknown reason
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: Paperback Writer on January 17, 2018, 12:45:30 PM
Here are the locations where I found gaffer’s tape on my ’67 SJ Convertible (build date 9/22/1966):

- There were three spots in the trunk holding down the fuel tank wire.
- Tape near the power top cylinders in the rear seat area - presumably to guard against abrasion damage to the hydraulic lines.
- Tape along the top front edge of the convertible top well opening.  This went under the stainless steel trim as well.

PS – Please disregard the red paint on the floor panels.  That was not factory correct…
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: Bossbill on January 17, 2018, 03:07:48 PM
I really like the high resolution pic of the seam sealer application for this plant in this time frame. An extra credit feature of this thread.

On the inside the tape appears to be at least 3" wide, if not 4". Since I gather this area is now covered can you verify the tape width in the trunk? Alas, my body manual is still 2 days away ...
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 17, 2018, 04:16:21 PM
On the inside the tape appears to be at least 3" wide, if not 4". Since I gather this area is now covered can you verify the tape width in the trunk? Alas, my body manual is still 2 days away ...

Looking at the pictures it appears that (for the trunk) we can see 2"-4" being used.  The assembly manual will show what Ford wanted - pictures will show what plants/workers did so don't expect them to match each other on this details. IMHO always go with the evidence
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: J_Speegle on January 17, 2018, 04:21:52 PM
To the other locations

Could not find any examples on coupes or convertibles of the tape being used/applied as it was in other years. Example response #11

But you can see another location to add to the list for coupes - the lower forward access hole in the interior quarter panel. Just behind the door opening.. Ignore the speaker wires   ::)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-170118151825.jpeg)

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-170118151808.jpeg)



Example of the shift indicator light wire taping to the driveline hump. Some other years and plants used masking tape at least for a period of time

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/9/6-170118151840.jpeg)
Title: Re: 67 SJ Gaffer Tape Usage
Post by: Paperback Writer on January 17, 2018, 09:41:36 PM
I just remembered one other gaffer's tape location on my '67 SJ Convertible.

There was a long strip of gaffer's tape along the top of the rear seat back as well...