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Offline jwc66k

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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2018, 01:29:04 PM »
A point of reference. The MPC, Section 21 pg 2, indicates that 378773-S2, a 12 point head drive, was used in 65,66, and 379027-S2, a hex head drive, was used in 1967. No "early", "late" or changeover date reference was included.
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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2018, 02:01:34 PM »
A point of reference. The MPC, Section 21 pg 2, indicates that 378773-S2, a 12 point head drive, was used in 65,66, and 379027-S2, a hex head drive, was used in 1967. No "early", "late" or changeover date reference was included.
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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2018, 02:04:24 PM »
I don't disagree what the Ford book might say BUTTTTTTT the real world is sometimes different as we have learned from other examples. As Special Ed (Meyer) likes to say "That's just the way it is" .

It was true at least until November 2nd 1966... My original date-correct, example pictured below
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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2018, 02:41:45 PM »
+1 or is it 2.  The MPC or that version of the MPC is  incorrect on this detail

We've shown  unrestored examples of the detail in a number of prior threads
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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2018, 03:41:16 PM »
I'm in contact with Jim Cowles.  He did mention I have a 65/66 and a 67 caliper.  He is going to square me away on what I should have.  :)

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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2018, 07:01:59 PM »
The boots for the pistons are very much different from 65/66 and 67, as are the pistons, IIRC. 

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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2018, 07:30:05 PM »
Have you found any date codes on the calipers?

I found one on the 12-pt bolts. Decoding I think 265 day of 1965 which equates to 22 Sep 1965, about one month before my build date. 
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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2018, 10:36:18 PM »
Jim Cowles would know, he's rebuilt/restored a ton of these.
We need to encourage him to write an article.  ;D
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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2018, 11:23:43 PM »
We need to encourage him to write an article.  ;D

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Re: kelsey hayes caliper discrepancies and red color found
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2018, 03:40:06 PM »
I found one on the 12-pt bolts. Decoding I think 265 day of 1965 which equates to 22 Sep 1965, about one month before my build date.

Casting shows 284, which would be Oct 11, 1965.  Remember that the date on your door plate is a 'scheduled date' and can be off days/weeks before or after.  Other dates on sheet metal and on components throughout the car can usually narrow the date down to something more realistic.
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