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ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« on: May 19, 2015, 01:42:11 PM »
This Ford Accessory was offered from late 1966 through 1968, for all Models. It is the same size as the Accessory Tachometers. It has 4 gauges on the face; Vacuum, Volts, Temperature and Oil Pressure. I plan to install this on my ’67 Convertible. I have all of the original fittings, wires, capillary and oil pressure tubes, vacuum hose, chrome cup and chrome flexible conduit that carries all of the wires and tubes. However, I do not have either the dash or steering column bracket. The correct brackets are chrome and somewhat triangular in shape, with a small hole towards the top for a 10-32 mounting stud that’s on the gauge, and a 5/8” hole below it for the flexible conduit. Most of the Accessory Tachometer Brackets that I have seen are either of the“old style keyhole” (lollipop) shape, or “L” shape ; although I have heard of the Accessory Tachs showing up with this bracket on them. The dash mount version of the correct bracket for the Engine Gauge can be seen on Ebay Item # 151349518539. Using actual photos I have of an NOS Gauge, and using my chrome mounting cup as a size reference, I would estimate the dash mount bracket to be 1-3/4” wide, 2-3/4” tall, have a center to center hole spacing of approximately 1-1/4”, a top radius of ½”, and be 1/16” thick.

As this Accessory wasn’t released until late 1966, the “1966 Only” Master Parts Catalog does not show it. In the “1967 Only” MPC, it only lists the name and Part Number. However, in the 1960-68 MPC, along with the name and part number, it also lists all of the parts included with the kit. Interestingly, it lists the bracket as “C5RA-17368-D, Bracket, tachometer mounting”. Whether this part number is for the original triangular shaped mounting bracket, or truly a “tachometer bracket”, I don’t know. Also a “puzzle” is that while the parts listing only shows this one bracket, the instructions for the Engine Gauge Kit, of which I have a “picture” copy (apparently the person I got this from some years ago didn’t have a way to scan the original instructions and email them to me), clearly shows two separate brackets; the Dash Mount and the Steering Column Mount.

I plan to mount my Gauge on the Steering Column. Therefore, if anyone out there has an extra one of these correct brackets (preferably the Steering Column one), I would like to purchase it. If no one has an extra of either bracket (I figure that I can modify the Dash bracket if necessary), I would settle for at least the actual dimensions (width, height, center to center hole spacing, radius of top and thickness of steel) so that I could at least fabricate a bracket that resembled the original. Yes, I have tried a half dozen times over the last 6 weeks to contact the seller of the one on Ebay requesting the dimensions. Last week he finally replied that he was not going to take the time (?) to get the dimensions for me. Obviously he is not a “thoroughbred hobbyist” (pun intended).

Any help would certainly be appreciated.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Re: ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 02:39:55 PM »
Bob,

I made this drawing for you based on measurements from the auction photos. (A couple of years of machine vision experience...) The dimensions fit your estimates rather nicely. I can't guarantee accuracy to ±.010", but it should be close enough to pass casual inspection. The thickness is a bit hard to judge, I would put at it 18 gauge material which is a bit thicker than your estimate. Hope this helps!
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 03:26:57 PM »
WT8095 - Wow ! Thanks for your fast response and for taking the time to create and furnish me a "fabrication drawing". I couldn't have done it better myself if I would have had the part in front of me. You must be a true "thoroughbred hobbyist", or if not, an Engineer (Retired) like me.
Thanks again,
Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Re: ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 03:39:11 PM »
WT8095 - Wow ! Thanks for your fast response and for taking the time to create and furnish me a "fabrication drawing". I couldn't have done it better myself if I would have had the part in front of me. You must be a true "thoroughbred hobbyist", or if not, an Engineer (Retired) like me.
Thanks again,
Bob

You're quite welcome! I strive to be a "thoroughbred hobbyist" - contributing where I can to repay for all the help I've received.  :)  Currently Mfg. Eng. on medical devices, approaching 30 years of laser welding and tool design experience.

If you ever obtain better measurements of the bracket, let me know and I will update the drawing accordingly.
Dave Z.

'68 fastback, S-code + C6. Special Paint (Rainbow promotion), DSO 710784. Actual build date 2/7/1968, San Jose.
'69 Cougar convertible, 351W-2V + FMX, Meadowlark Yellow.

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Re: ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 08:47:54 PM »
First for others here - this is the accessory Bob is describing









Since the steering column mount would have a circular base I'll try and remember to check my kit for that bracket when I return Monday. If I forget bump the thread or PM for a reminder

If you look in the Accessory catalogs that is where you typically find these sorts of things rather than trying the MPC. More of a marketing tool for dealers ;)
« Last Edit: May 19, 2015, 09:54:52 PM by J_Speegle »
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Re: ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 09:48:37 PM »
Tony Branda offers a dash mounting bracket for the 1966 GT350 tachometer. It might be an option to consider.

http://www.cobranda.com/tabr.html

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Re: ENGINE GAUGE KIT - C6AZ-10B944-B (1966-68)
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 02:53:08 AM »
Engineer : Thanks for your reply. I have seen the dash bracket you are talking about, and actually have an original of its "Steering Column Mate". It is way more "cupped" than the back of the case for the Engine Gauge. It would probably work with the right size and number of spacers, but I'd really like to have one like the original.
Thanks again for the thought.
Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
MCA 04909