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Offline 67gta289

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67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« on: March 31, 2010, 07:12:55 PM »
Can anyone provide pictures and/or a description of where a Dec 66 SJ built tilt vacuum cannister should go?  From what I've read it sounds like pass side under hinge, but I'm not sure whether in engine compartment or in wheel house. Thanks, John
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 07:48:13 PM »
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 11:18:23 PM »
There are a couple of possible locations. Thanks for posting the when and where, will check my pictures to get an idea of where others had theirs
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2010, 06:34:07 PM »
The assembly date plays a key role in where and what type of vacuum cannister was used in 67. Very early 67s may have had a round, coffee can style cannister under the battery tray mount in the engine compartment. More commonly was the oblong cannister mounted inside the engine between the hood hinge and firewall on the passenger side. Very late 67s may have had the round, coffee can style mounted in the wheel well between the hood hinge and firewall on the passenger side.

Give us your assembly date and any other options your 67 came with and we can give you better guideance.

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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2010, 09:27:16 PM »
built dec 20 1966
2+2
C code
C4
GTA
PS
PDB
no air
SJ build, SJ DSO - thermactor

Thanks, John
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2010, 09:43:41 PM »
Little challenge with the pictures since few examples got the tilt steering wheel

Would guess that you can look for either of these styles and can confirm which one your car originally had based on the location and number of mounting holes
There is possibly IMHO a third late version



From - 7R01A130x11




From - 7R01A194xxx4

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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 10:03:52 PM »
I have a San Jose built mustang, 7R02S
build date Dec 15 1966
factory tilt wheel and A/C
It has the oblong tank in the first picture
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010, 03:10:33 AM »
For 67 the vacuum can mounted on the rear apron by the hood spring was the vacuum canister for the A/C like it is for the later years IMHO. In 67 the tilt canister was mounted on the battery tray as indicated in the assembly manual. There are 3 sets of holes prepunched on the assemblyline Battery trays . One set is for 6 cylinder , one for V8, and one for 390. I don't when the transition changed where the can mounted to the back side of the apron under the battery box like all 68,69,70's did. I believe if it was in 67 production it is very late IMHO . I have seen a number of examples in late June that had it on the battery box. They were all San Jose so other plants could have varied . Bob
« Last Edit: April 05, 2010, 03:19:19 AM by Bob Gaines »
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2010, 04:01:10 PM »
Bob,

I wondered what all of the extra holes on the original group 22 battery tray for my 67 convertible. Now I know!

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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2010, 05:43:06 PM »
It is not a area that we normally pay a lot of attention to IMHO. I have a theory that this hole pattern was prepunched in all the 67 battery tray's whether it came with tilt or not. With the corrosion caused by the battery acid it is very common for the tray to be replaced. I hadn't noticed this difference myself until last year which is when I started studying it. The service trays didn't have the holes that I have ever seen or heard of.  Out of the several dozen 67 Mustangs original battery trays with the hole pattern that I have now observed ( since I realized what I needed to look for) still in cars only one actually had factory tilt away. Bob
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2010, 08:14:47 PM »
Bib and I have been discussing this for a little while. Not sure IMHO if this was a whole year long thing or a running change like so many other things in 67. Interesting to find all the trays with both (what the instructions suggest) 6 cyl and 8 cyl holes.

BTW the instructions Bob posted was from a factory cruise control installation instructions

Still looking for examples of original tilts with a can installed there
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2010, 12:38:01 AM »
I can not find any kind of change over information yet in any Ford documents.  As Jeff noted we have been discussing the information for a while and it was Jeff who so kindly brought to my attention the cruise control install docs that also used the battery tray location. Interestingly and a little puzzling is the fact that in the engineering drawings (page 46 and 47 of the chassis manual so you don't pass over it 100 times like I have  ;) )for the tilt canister the illustration indicates that the 3 pairs of holes were for 6cyl ,V8 and 390. I am still trying to figure out why there would be a need for a different orientation of the can for a 390 when compared to a V8. The V8 and 390 different pair of holes are only slightly different location.   Just another one of the many changes for 67  that makes this type of historical studying interesting (or maddening :o ). Bob
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2016, 08:01:43 AM »
I was reading back through old threads and for what it is worth, more updated information about these canisters can be found in other threads. As mentioned, there looks to be a running change involved AND the correct location & type used has a lot to do with the car's factory installed options as well as assembly location.

I would definitely use the "search feature"  and/or ask questions on this topic before making changes or deciding on what is correct for your example.

One thread from late 2014:
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=9931.msg59847#msg59847
« Last Edit: February 17, 2016, 04:15:28 PM by 67gtasanjose »
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2016, 01:36:11 PM »
I do have a tilt away (but not working  :(). Had some exchanges with John on this.
My car was build Nov. 30 1966. Will take some pictures in the days to come. Have to search for the location.
Currently no idea where things are located..... ;D
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Re: 67 tilt wheel vacuum canister location and pics
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2016, 03:38:38 PM »
Finally got my tilt away working 8)
Installed a check valve which keeps the vacuum now (vaccum canister engine bay)
Mine looks like Jeff posted (From - 7R01A130x11)
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