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67 trunk light wire
« on: July 06, 2014, 12:59:43 PM »
I have a correct trunk light socket however the wire is missing. Looking at the Osborn book it looks like there is a wire comming off the socket and plugs into another wire going to the front. If this is correct are both wires green/yellow stripe? I have seen a picture and it looks like the wire comming off the socket is black. Also does the whole wire have the braided cover or just part of it. Thanks
Gary
67 GTA Fastback "S"Code
09/30/66 SJ

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 06:35:06 PM »
What body type?
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 11:08:58 AM »
Fastback
thanks
Gary
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 08:32:49 PM »
Ok had time to go through my pictures and have to report not allot of cars got that option - or at least not many I could find :(

Here is what I have to offer - draw your own conclusions . Hope they help


7R01C163xxx  Coupe trunk light mounting





7R02C15180x




7T02S22790x





Unknown 67 or 68 example




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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 10:48:43 PM »
I have a correct trunk light socket however the wire is missing. Looking at the Osborn book it looks like there is a wire comming off the socket and plugs into another wire going to the front. If this is correct are both wires green/yellow stripe? I have seen a picture and it looks like the wire comming off the socket is black. Also does the whole wire have the braided cover or just part of it. Thanks
The green with yellow stripe was a 68 and the black with blue was the 67.
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 01:06:49 PM »
Looking at the pic's it looks like one of them had the braided cover on at least some of the wire and the last pic looks like just the black/blue wire. Also was it a one piece wire all the way to the door switch or a 2 piece? thanks again for all the help
Gary
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 01:57:36 PM »
Also was it a one piece wire all the way to the door switch or a 2 piece?
Here is what I have. From the light to the trunk hinge is one piece, w/single "bullet" style plug-in. From the trunk hinge to the door post, a single wire and memory tells me the end at the door switch (A-pillar) has a "jumper" style end to supply another "dome fuse feed". ( The A-pillar connection is the only part by memory, but I just took mine apart a few weeks ago. Wiring is packed away, cannot easily look at it just now.)

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2014, 12:06:58 AM »
Thanks Richard
Looking at the Osborn book that makes since. But then again they say the wire is green/yellow so it gets confusing. It also looks like both wires have the braided cover the whole length in the book. If you get a chance to look at yours could you let me know if its braided and the length of the wire that goes to the door and the jumper length? I have a wire that will work from the light to the hinge.
Gary
67 GTA Fastback "S"Code
09/30/66 SJ

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2014, 11:20:41 AM »
Thanks Richard
Looking at the Osborn book that makes since. But then again they say the wire is green/yellow so it gets confusing. It also looks like both wires have the braided cover the whole length in the book. If you get a chance to look at yours could you let me know if its braided and the length of the wire that goes to the door and the jumper length? I have a wire that will work from the light to the hinge.
Addressing only the wire: The Osborn manual page E7-8620-3 (page 61) indicates to me that the connection in the A-pillar is to the green-yellow wire of the underdash wiring at the door switch, as it is on mine. It also indicates to me that the single luggage lamp feed color is NOT identified since the letter-A is pointing ONLY to the vehicles underdash side of the connection. (refer to view-C). I do not see the letter A used anywhere else on the page.

Secondly, I see no evidence suggesting that the lamp feed wire has any braided covering beyond what is seen inside the trunk, such as along the rocker panel. The manual clearly shows no wrap at the front end of that wire and that it is taped onto the tailamp harness every 12 inches or so (3/4" wide tape)

Given to the facts that 67 Mustangs had so many running changes, my application is a coupe, not a fastback, so many variances found from the Osborn assembly manuals in relation to wiring in general when compared to production vehicles and there are so few of these luggage lamps in use, I will decline commenting at the Concours level as NOT to steer anyone the wrong direction. If you wish to discuss any further privately, I will be willing to share what I have on my example more through private messaging if you like.

Richard
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2005 (04/05) GT Premium Convertible, Windveil Blue, Parchment Top w/Med. Parchment interior,  Roush Body Appointments

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2014, 11:41:56 AM »
Here are some pics from a Dearborn coupe 7F02C129xxx that I stripped. 
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2014, 01:45:59 PM »
 Please keep in mind as I ask these questions, this is my first restoration and when I got the car it was not all together and Im just trying hard to get it back as right as posible. All the diagrams I have seen show a green/yellow as a hot wire off the door switch to a light that has its own switch such as the trunk light. The black/blue wire items come on when the door is opened. So if the 67 trunk light wire is blue/black, at the door switch was the jumper wire going into the switch green/yellow? If it was also black/blue you would have 2 black/blue wires plugging into the door switch. (if im looking correctly!) 
Gary
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2014, 04:52:48 PM »
Here are some pictures of the wire from the door jamb to the bullet connection in the rear.

Note the following:

1. There is indeed a wire mesh over the wire (photo 3)
2. The wire appeared to be black, but with a bit of lacquer thinner I could see the blue stripe.
3. At the door jamb the green/yellow wire (pig tail) and black/blue wire are connected together (photo 1)
4. The mesh was very tight over the wire, almost like shrink tubing.
5. The wire is separate from the main harness, taped to it every few feet (photo 2)
6. Unique clip at the trunk end, with paper tag remnants (photo 4)

Will get the short harness on the trunk lid later.

Again this is one of "X" from one car at one plant.  This is the model year 67 we are talking about after all.
John
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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2014, 12:51:28 AM »
Thanks so much John. That info is perfect and explains well. If you get a chance could I get the total length of the wire, distance from the connector to the clip at the trunk end, and the length of the green/yellow jumper wire. If this is asking to much I understand and can wag it. I would like to see if somebody will make one for me.
Gary
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09/30/66 SJ

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2014, 01:56:29 AM »
interesting that ford used a grommet ont eh trunk wiring, but not ont he hood louvered turn signal wire.  One wouod think the hood being opend far more then the runk would make cahfing/wear an issue ther, mnore thant eh trunk.

AMK lists a 1.37 ID X 1.66 OD X .31 TK, OLP, C4AB-14603-A, and a .63 ID X 1.06 OD X .31 TK, OLG, C3AB-14603-C which look "similar".  '68 FAM notes C6OB-14603-B, and '67 C4SB-14603-H.  Anyone know if the AMK parts are close (will work), or if anyone sells the right part.  Want to add this to my 68 convertible, have the lamp and have been looking for the grommet... no luck..
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8R01S : 65A B 2A 28M 72 7 5 - Factory GT
8R01C : 65A M 2A 01E 72 2 W - Cal Special
8F01X : 65A I 2A 2G 20E 24 1 U - EXP500 repli-bute

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Re: 67 trunk light wire
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2014, 10:33:38 AM »
interesting that ford used a grommet ont eh trunk wiring, but not ont he hood louvered turn signal wire.  One wouod think the hood being opend far more then the runk would make cahfing/wear an issue ther, mnore thant eh trunk.

AMK lists a 1.37 ID X 1.66 OD X .31 TK, OLP, C4AB-14603-A, and a .63 ID X 1.06 OD X .31 TK, OLG, C3AB-14603-C which look "similar".  '68 FAM notes C6OB-14603-B, and '67 C4SB-14603-H.  Anyone know if the AMK parts are close (will work), or if anyone sells the right part.  Want to add this to my 68 convertible, have the lamp and have been looking for the grommet... no luck..
The early 67 hoods did have the grommets when Ford was drilling holes in hoods that they had all ready manufactured. They then then retooled and rolled the edges of the holes so there was no need for grommets on the latter hoods.

Here is a picture of our SJ 11-04-66 convertible wiring.
Marty
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