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Title: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on May 27, 2015, 12:46:30 PM
Since 2005-2008 Mustangs are currently on the list would it be safe to assume that 2009 would also be effected since they are the same model/style?
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gtasanjose on May 27, 2015, 01:14:46 PM
NO, not all are involved in the recall. Investigation shows this:

"Ford Motor Company (Ford) is recalling certain model year 2005-2008 Ford Mustang vehicles manufactured August 1, 2004,
to June 30, 2007, and 2005-2006 Ford GT vehicles manufactured February 11, 2005, to January 30, 2006. Upon
deployment of the driver side frontal air bag, excessive internal pressure may cause the inflator to rupture."

I'm not sure which ones are included in the quote: "certain model year 2005-2008 Mustang vehicles manufactured August 1, 2004, to June 30, 2007"
but I have yet to receive a letter from Ford. Our GT Convertible was built 4/8/2005 so falls within the dates mentioned.

 I'm not sure I wish to have them mollest my car again like the last warranty repair I had done to it  >:(

The bastards peeled out the center exhaust hangers at the trans crossmember because we mentioned a minor vibration at something like 1800 RPM's.  :o

 Wish I could have known that was what they intended to do beforehand  ::)
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: tobkob on June 04, 2015, 12:54:23 PM
I had my wife's 05 convertible recall completed last December. It took 2 trips, one to check to see if they are the correct color that need replacement, then ordered parts and one trip to replace. Both trips took only a short while.
TOB
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: dave6768 on June 04, 2015, 01:42:04 PM
I'm still waiting on the official notification on the wife's '06
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: carlite65 on June 04, 2015, 01:43:14 PM
so am i. have two that are on the list.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on June 04, 2015, 09:20:19 PM
All 05-14 Mustangs were added last week...
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: rodster on June 07, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
" This brings the total number of Ford vehicles recalled for Takata airbag inflators to 1,509,535 vehicles to date."    :o


Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: NEFaurora on June 27, 2015, 10:44:32 PM

Any recent word on this recall??  Anyone here have it done???? Experiences???  :o)

Thanks,

Tony K.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: rodster on June 28, 2015, 11:24:36 PM
The last I read, production of replacements could take months....  I suspect that is the delay in the recall.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: GT500KR on June 28, 2015, 11:48:41 PM
Go to:
 
owner.ford.com

Click on the "Service & Maintenance" Tab

Click on "Recalls"

Enter your VIN.

Both my late models are affected, and yes, will be delayed due to the impossibly high number of replacements that will be necessary. 

I guess I'll have to get a couple of goalie masks for the wife and I in the meantime..... :o
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: jimhib on June 29, 2015, 08:48:35 PM
  I had my 14 Shelby done last week, took all of thirty minutes and out the door.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: GT500KR on June 29, 2015, 10:41:51 PM
  I had my 14 Shelby done last week, took all of thirty minutes and out the door.

Did you get a letter, or did you inquire at the dealership?
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: jimhib on June 29, 2015, 10:56:46 PM
  I took it in for its first oil change (900 Miles) and they said there was a recall did I want them to do it while I was there and I said go for it I was already there.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gtasanjose on June 30, 2015, 07:14:12 AM
  I had my 14 Shelby done last week, took all of thirty minutes and out the door.

I imagine an original owner with their new car visiting it's selling dealership for service work already, they work you right in...I imagine any of the rest of us "older cars involved" people who do not or have not regularly visited the selling dealership for any and all services needed, we'll all get nothing but a free punch on our "Tough.S___." card and told to wait "for the parts to become available". Service Departments take care of those who are "Buying" new cars first, they always have. If you have a good history of spending money with them...you move up the ladder of priority. PERIOD!

You've gotta keep those "spending their money" ALIVE before you concern yourself with those who are not! Just saying  :D
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: jimhib on June 30, 2015, 10:16:22 AM
 Your point is often valid and I feel the same way but, I did not purchase my car from the dealer changing the oil. I purchased it seventy miles away from a dealer not adding mark up, it was a killer deal for me. I could never figure out dealer policies on some of these items but it is strange as to who they take care of first and why they do what they do.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on June 30, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Is it just the driver's airbag or both driver and passenger?
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gtasanjose on July 30, 2015, 09:17:29 AM
Is it just the driver's airbag or both driver and passenger?


JUST the drivers airbag. Not Passengers or side airbags (yet)

As far as "playing favorites" is concerned...Since I received my notice last week, I called to check on parts availability for our '05, maybe get on a "list" or whatever kind of "preferred" customers waiting list...No such thing. No list, no preferential treatment. (or so they are instructed to say)

As the notice says: "When parts are available, Ford Motor Company will send a letter to inform you the parts are available and to contact your dealer to schedule a repair."

Till then, as always... Drive DEFENSIVELY and watch out for any impaired drivers that might shoot out of nowhere to "get you"!  ;D
 
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gta289 on July 30, 2015, 09:49:45 AM
I got mine last week also.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ruppstang on July 30, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
Got ours today.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: carlite65 on July 30, 2015, 02:36:23 PM
me too for both cars............now we got to wait for another notice that parts are available.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: tobkob on July 30, 2015, 10:41:37 PM
I received my notice last week also. The only problem I see is that my wife's '05 had the recall done last December. Doesn't say much for their record keeping ;D
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on July 31, 2015, 12:25:32 AM
Got my notice today for my 09 along with my sister who has a 2010
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: GT500KR on July 31, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
Got mine yesterday, covering both my affected cars.

Says wait for notice of availability.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: steve_f on August 02, 2015, 02:17:40 AM
I received my notice last week also. The only problem I see is that my wife's '05 had the recall done last December. Doesn't say much for their record keeping ;D

My '05 was scheduled to get the airbag replaced last December but I couldn't fit it in. Last month my dealer said just as well because if I had it done then, it would need to be replaced again.  I would check before dismissing the notice on your wife's car.

Steve
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: midlife on August 02, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
I'm still waiting for the recall notice for my MIL air bag.... :-\
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ajd350 on August 03, 2015, 12:07:41 AM
OK, this situation can be confusing but I'll try to get it to make sense. The earlier recal (14B09) was to replace the inflators on some of the earlier cars. The newer recall (15S19) is to eventually replace all the 05-14 driver inflators [/i]when the parts become available[/i]. Since at this point Takata doesn't seem to know what exactly caused the problem, they will stiil the have to develop a solution. After that it will take some time to then make several million of them. Add to that the fact that most of the problems have been in high-humidity areas, and it gets complicated more by prioritizing the cars in the high-humidity regions. So the only 'fix' that can be performed right now is under the earlier (14B09) recall which will eventually be replaced by the eventual revised parts down the road. Got that so far?

When you come into the dealer most will run a report that will show any open programs on your car. Since we get paid by Ford to do them ( I am a Ford tech) we have NO reason not to unless A, you don't bring the car in or B, we cannot get the parts. We try to do our best to catch those even when customers don't mention the letters that are sitting in their junk mail pile and ignored (why would someone ignore a safety recall that costs you nothing, you say? Beats me.). Right now there are no parts for the final fix, so speculation of favoritism has no basis in fact here. You will get another letter from Ford Motor Co. The dealer has no part in it.

So that's the straight scoop. Nobody wants to have to be leery of the safety device in your face. Nobody wants to be told to wait. I wouldn't like it either. Waiting on Takata. So are several other manufacturers who use their bags.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: KevinK on August 03, 2015, 01:25:57 AM
Thanks for update on the recalls. 

Another down side, the rental car companies have sidelined the Mustangs waiting for the recall to be done.  It's a liability issue.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on July 05, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
So I got mine recall fixed this weekend for the driver side airbag.  Took only an hour to do although they wanted the car all day since they were busy but after yelling at the dealership I got them to get my car in and out in an hour.  Anyways, they said that a new recall notice is about to come out soon for the passenger side airbag.  Of course they don't have the parts yet for that recall, so more to come I can post the recall number when I get back home...
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: carlite65 on July 05, 2016, 11:16:08 AM
last week i received a second recall notice, 15S21, regarding the driver side airbag on my '07 coupe. apparently this second recall replaces the 1st one. i called my dealer & they set up an appointment for next february............the told me that the airbag used in the 1st recall was also defective......geez i wish they could get it right.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gtasanjose on July 05, 2016, 11:37:38 AM
I'll just wait it out and drive carefully as I always do anyways...Life is about taking chances, RIGHT?  8) We only drive it VERY occasionally anyways though we will be driving to Viagara Falls in a few weeks in it  :o
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 1967 eight barrel on July 05, 2016, 04:55:58 PM
There are only a couple manufacturers and both of my vehicles were recalled by GM ( Saab Convertibles) because of them throwing shrapnal and there have been five deaths attributed to them.

                                                                                    -Keith
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on July 06, 2016, 01:07:13 AM
Passenger recall number is 16S26
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: carlite65 on July 06, 2016, 08:37:35 AM
i have not gotten that one yet.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: jwc66k on July 06, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
A rhetorical question, how did we ever get along driving our cars back in the 60's without an airbag?
Jim
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gtasanjose on July 06, 2016, 01:36:33 PM
A rhetorical question, how did we ever get along driving our cars back in the 60's without an airbag?
Jim

In '67, Ford put that HUGE and UGLY pad on the wheels! There! bang yer had on that and SUE US!...68, the hub got bigger and uglier yet...They actually did several Air Bag tests beginning in the early 70's...so if you think the late 2000's airbags were dangerous...how'd you like one of those early PROTOTYPE styles to go off in your face!!!???
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on July 06, 2016, 09:36:24 PM
A rhetorical question, how did we ever get along driving our cars back in the 60's without an airbag?
Jim

There weren't as many crazy drivers on the road?  I was born in 79 so I can't say for certain....
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: GT500KR on July 17, 2016, 10:51:04 AM
   I had my wife's 09 done at the Ford Dealer in Heflin Alabama in June. They had parts in stock. My 07 GT500 lives in California. Called the dealer in Santa Monica the following week, and they had no parts, couldn't get parts, and had no idea when they would have parts available.

   A call to Ford shed a little light on this confusing topic. It was explained to me that  parts were being distributed in 3 phases, with high humidity locations given first priority. Then snowbelt, then everyone else. So, Arizona and California type climates will be the last to be serviced. Leads me to believe that corrosion may accelerate the rate of failure in their opinion.

   I'll be driving the GT500 back to Alabama next month, and WILL be having it serviced!
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ajd350 on July 17, 2016, 05:52:45 PM
  It's not 'an opinion'. They know that hunidity changes the characteristic of the ignitor charge and in some cases make it too explosive. We are changing them here in the midwest now and I looked over the differences in design. The diffuser cap (the part that turned to shrapnel) on the igniter looks to be of a thicker metal and has larger holes for the gas to fill the bag when deployed. I would assume that also the chemicals are either better isolated and/or changed to be more stable.

  The first round of recalls last year were to buy some time for cars in the field. Since the problem happened over time, it 'set the clock back to zero', so to speak,  by replacing the ignitors with the original design rather than to do nothing when they were still trying to figure out exactly what the cause and solution was. Then it took until recently to re-design, tool up, build and ship tens of millions of these things. That will keep us busy at the dealers for a while...
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: Deuce on December 28, 2017, 10:23:39 PM
An update to this dated thread:  Safety Recall Notice 16S26 / NHTSA Recall 16V-384.  (This is for the passenger side airbag). 

As some of you probably already have or likely will soon, I received a December 2017 letter from Ford Motor Company today which advises that the Passenger Airbag Inflator Replacement has been delayed because remedy parts are not yet available.   Excerpt from the letter:  "... we are expecting remedy parts to become available for certain vehicles in the Spring of 2018."

This December 2017 letter explicitly says: "... do not allow anyone to sit in the front row passenger seat."  The July 2016 letter letter does not say this.

18 months and counting, still awaiting parts.  And of course, Safety First!
 

Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gtasanjose on December 29, 2017, 08:42:35 AM
...18 months and counting, still awaiting parts.  And of course, Safety First!

No, it is "Quality is Job-1", not "Safety First"! (not that this helps...but the motto was 'dropped' like right after the introduction of airbags as 'standard safety equipment'.)
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: ChrisV289 on December 29, 2017, 09:03:51 AM
I doubt we are going to be getting any parts for our cars (2009 Mustang V6 coupe). It says certain vehicles.  Ford probably put this letter out just to cover their a**.  And to say not to let anyone sit in the passenger seat?  Have they sat in the back half of a Mustang?  Unless you are double amputee, you have no room.  Especially if you sit behind someone who is big or someone like me that has the back reclined way back.  Ford has pretty much taken a 4 passenger car that really only seats two comfortably and made it a one seat car.  What does this do for trade in value or resell value?  It is basically a death trap for a passenger or playing Russian roulette with the air bag hoping it doesn't kill you with metal shards...So disappointed in Ford right now. 
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: Deuce on December 29, 2017, 09:48:39 AM
It would likely be safer to simply deactivate / deenergize the passenger airbag so the passenger seat can be used.  Not that it's a DIY job by any means, and it's probably not simple at all since the seat weight sensor and seat belts are all tied into the restraint system.  "Don't try this at home!"

Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gta289 on December 29, 2017, 12:02:29 PM
I wouldn't say it is more likely to be safer.  Just look at some statistics from an NHTSA report below.  Even if the number of deaths have doubled or tripled since then due to the Takata airbag defects, it still pales in comparison to lives saved.  I'd rather be in a car with a potential defective airbag than one with none.

ESTIMATED GROSS NUMBER OF LIVES SAVED BY AIR BAGS AS OF 7/01/07: 24334 total: 19872 drivers (7768 belted, 12104 not belted) and 4462 front-right passengers (1917 belted, 2545 not belted)

Status of air bag related fatality and serious injury cases during the period 1/01/07 - 7/01/07:

CHILDREN CONFIRMED AS RECEIVING A FATAL INJURY RELATED TO AN AIR BAG
Children fatally injured by the PAB 172

DRIVERS CONFIRMED AS RECEIVING A FATAL INJURY RELATED TO AN AIR BAG Fatal Drivers 91

CHILDREN CONFIRMED AS RECEIVING A LIFE THREATENING INJURY RELATED TO AN AIR BAG Children with life threatening injuries by the PAB 38

DRIVERS CONFIRMED AS RECEIVING A LIFE THREATENING INJURY RELATED TO AN AIR BAG Driver Life Threatening Injuries 7

ADULT PASSENGERS CONFIRMED AS RECEIVING A FATAL INJURY RELATED TO AN AIR BAG Fatal Passengers 13

ADULT PASSENGERS CONFIRMED AS RECEIVING A LIFE THREATENING INJURY RELATED TO AN AIR BAG Seriously Injured Passengers 8
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: Deuce on December 29, 2017, 01:50:58 PM
Interesting data and points well taken!  And now a Mustang owner is placed in a position to explain risks to a prospective passenger.

This data is from 2007.  Would be instructive to see what the data show ~ 10 years later, and how the Takata-related casualties affect the results. 
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: 67gta289 on December 29, 2017, 02:50:09 PM
Agreed.  I did not look hard for any newer data, it was in the top 5 hits in my Google search.
Title: Re: Airbag Recall
Post by: Deuce on January 07, 2018, 12:51:04 PM
Takata adds 3.3 million air bag inflators to massive recall

Attached is an article from this weekend's news.  The last line of the article is revealing; i.e., that auto makers are subject to fines if they aren't completing recalls fast enough.  It appears that combined, the auto makers have a recall completion rate of only 43 percent since recalls began in 2001.