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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 12:16:14 AM »
It seems doubtful that Kevin would feel the need to call out a variation in the Options/Features section of the report when the 2 or 3 digit trim code already explains those particular variations, IMHO. For instance: Teak vs Walnut woodgrain was not an optional difference and the wood tone could not be specified by the 'orderer'. It was simply a running change by the manufacturer.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 03:42:58 PM »
Here is the Marti-report for my 69 Mach 1.

I looked through several marti reports that i have ordered over the years. I'm wondering if the word "Clarion" has anything to do with the extra letter in the code. I noticed all "clarion" bucket seats have the extra letter in the trim code where all "non-clarion" seats do not.


just something to chew on

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 05:00:36 PM »
Here is the Marti-report for my 69 Mach 1.

I looked through several marti reports that i have ordered over the years. I'm wondering if the word "Clarion" has anything to do with the extra letter in the code. I noticed all "clarion" bucket seats have the extra letter in the trim code where all "non-clarion" seats do not.

Think you might be mixing Mach I and other interiors when you look at the reports Have a few hundred from 69 and here is what I found

Both dual and triple coding was used with seats labeled in the Marti reports as "Clarion"

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2018, 02:01:12 PM »
I know this thread is old but I thought I would add my recently received Deluxe Marti Report which again references "Trim Variations"

Hoping Andrew may respond with any communication he may have had with Kevin Marti.

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Trim Variation Final Answer?
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2020, 10:13:40 PM »
I have searched long and hard for a solid answer on what the "Trim Variation" is on my Marti report.  I have seen many posts but no solid proven answers.  One post said they were waiting to hear from Kevin Marti but I never saw an answer.   So my question is,  Does anyone actually know what that is without guessing??   Thanks


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Re: Trim Variation Final Answer?
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2020, 07:14:10 PM »
Merging this with the earlier main thread

In a quick look  (complete look will take hours) they are falling like a running change along production dates
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2020, 01:23:15 PM »
I am wondering if it had something to do with a change of order in mid production?   My car according to the Marti did not come with a Tac  However it has one and all the correct components that came with it including correct wiring and behind dash components etc.   Second owner advised original owner told him it was factory and not added.  Ever heard of anything like that with added options?


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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2020, 02:08:37 PM »
Sometimes a tachometer was included (bundled) with a manual transmission and therefore would not show up on the Marti report like it would if ordered on an automatic equipped vehicle
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2020, 09:16:27 AM »
Interesting.  I was unaware of that.  Would that be the case with any other options also?       Seems hard to figure out this "Trim Variation" question.  Cant seem to get a solid answer anywhere.  I don't know here to try next.  Anyone have any thoughts on how to solve the mystery?

Thanks

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2020, 10:54:49 AM »
It's tricky.  If you automatically get a tachometer when you order a manual transmission, the manual transmission is the "option", whereas the tachometer is bundled.  In that case, whoever ordered the car did not check the tachometer box.

There are other cases like in 1967, power disc brakes were part of the GT equipment group option, but was also a stand-alone option.  The disc brakes will not show up on the Marti in this case (at least it doesn't on mine).

As far as the trim variation mystery, you can see the number of people that have read the thread, and it would be hard to find a more inquisitive and passionate group on something like this, so to me it appears that we have reached a dead end...for now.
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2020, 05:17:20 PM »
............................Anyone have any thoughts on how to solve the mystery?

You need to either find a document or publication from Ford from that production year that explains the variation and related codes or someone that does.

Since we don't know what to look or focus on we are left with collection of data and comparing unrestored cars to at least narrow down the possibilities. Fully understand that with the internet few are willing to wait months or years to figure things out like we had to do before the internet. And even now with the internet there are not that many people willing to put in the time, find the resources or spend the dollars if needed so it's the long route for most things. We hope that sites like this help to bring together like minded people so that each can put in the work for the good of all.

Lacking the magic bullet (a document) we're left with guesses or a lucky moment
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2020, 06:19:22 PM »
Interesting.  I was unaware of that.  Would that be the case with any other options also?       Seems hard to figure out this "Trim Variation" question.  Cant seem to get a solid answer anywhere.  I don't know here to try next.  Anyone have any thoughts on how to solve the mystery?

Thanks

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2020, 07:51:26 PM »
I will give it a try on my end  :)
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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2020, 02:46:13 PM »
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Sometimes a tachometer was included (bundled) with a manual transmission and therefore would not show up on the Marti report like it would if ordered on an automatic equipped vehicle

At least on 68-70 big block cars (I don't do much with small blocks or 67's ) a Tach was standard with 4 speed cars in 68 and 69 so it won't show up on the Marti. In 70 the Tach became an option with 4 speed cars so anything with a factory tach in 70 will have it shown on the Marti report.

Just FYI, John

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Re: Elite Marti report question - "Trim Variation" in 69
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2020, 12:29:29 AM »
That's great info  Thank you    Ever heard of power steering being from factory in a big block 4 spd car but not on the MARTI?   I am wondering if that could be a "trim variation"?
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