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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2017, 04:26:49 PM »
..... we don't know if the assembly line joints had the same marking.

Don't believe so - like other marks only found on service replacements - and the reason for the discussion

In my pictures I only found them on C2OZ-3049-D upper ball joint kits. None on the other kits up through C8 ones
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2017, 05:12:33 PM »
The 2/65 San Jose car that I restored didn't have holes in the upper control arm end caps.  I see plugs on these.

Also, the lower control arm boot retainer plates I have found were smooth, no curled up edges like later style, commonly found on service replacement LCA's.
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2017, 11:09:07 PM »
I assume these are the original upper control arms and I did not change the control arm shafts.  They were in good shape so we re-used them. 

Same for the boot retainers, I used the same style that was on there.  I do see the flat retainers being used in later service replacements for the C7/C8/D0 etc lower control arms.

A grey area for sure.....
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2017, 02:35:35 AM »
So finally after a long hiatus, an Eaton power steering pump has been returned to the car.  Less than a month away from the Tucson show.  Little things here and there including finishing up the rebuild on the control valve and getting my new valance back from the painter after he color matches to the original one. 
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2017, 10:17:06 AM »
Not sure how many judges will be familiar with that setup, so be sure to have documentation.

Also, the screw on dipstick should be zinc plated, not painted argent.  Same for the bolt/washer on the top.

One other suggestion... wipe the part number off your air cleaner breather hose.
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2017, 11:34:43 AM »
Am very impressed with all the improvements you have made. Glad I will see your car in Tucson.

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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2017, 11:36:41 AM »
Thanks Charles.  So no part number or logo on that hose?  It wasn't mentioned on my judging sheets in 2015.  I know the car originally came with PS as the steering gear box has the proper date code and numbers on it (HCC-AW 4K19B).  Also my want ad I had for these brackets; I included two cars that had the same setup and the VINS were before and after mine by at least 10,000.  Car also did not have any holes in the inner fender for the remote reservoir.  When we got the car in 1992, pump was changed out and had the Ford bracket and a 67+ steering pump since it had the smaller neck.  So I know that wasn't correct.  I assume the Eaton pump went out and instead of rebuilding it they replaced it and by that time Eaton had been phased out and the only available pumps were Ford...Which screw on the dipstick, not sure I see what you are talking about...

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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2017, 11:57:25 AM »
Yes, definitely no number or logo on that hose, I'm sure Jeff has dozens of examples if you need them.  I have seen the hose with ribbing like the heater hose also.  I usually use a piece of that and wipe off the white line.

The dip-stick screws into the top of the housing, the whole thing should be zinc plated, as well as the bolt/washer that attach the top cover to the reservoir.  There are some NOS caps on ebay, probably be easier to buy one.

The Mannel page from the book would be good to have as documentation, along with photos of cars with close unit numbers at San Jose.

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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2017, 12:08:19 PM »
Hose pic (this was actually a piece of NOS heater hose)
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2017, 12:12:48 PM »
Reservoir with zinc dipstick and attaching bolt/washer.
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2017, 12:19:01 PM »
Great reference pics, thank you!
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2017, 09:16:20 PM »
So question on that bolt and washer, am I able to take that off and nothing leak out of the pump?  I've never dealt with an Eaton pump before.  Or do i need to use paint stripper on a q-tip to get the argent paint off?
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2017, 08:21:31 AM »
So question on that bolt and washer, am I able to take that off and nothing leak out of the pump?  I've never dealt with an Eaton pump before.  Or do i need to use paint stripper on a q-tip to get the argent paint off?

It holds the lid on, so no problem with taking the bolt off.  On the pic I provided, you can see the seal on the edge of the washer also, which shouldn't have any paint on it also.
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2017, 10:07:53 AM »
Thanks Charles. In that pic I see a yellow dab. When I first looked at the pump at my friend's shop there were some paint dabs but I didn't pay attention to them. And when it came back from the rebuild it was all painted cast. Is that a factory mark or a rebuild mark?
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Re: 1965 San Jose A code Fastback - 10/29/64 Build
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2017, 10:15:43 AM »
That pump was simply cleaned up, all the markings are the original.  It was not painted black, but I know that it's accepted to be natural or black.
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