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Offline jwc66k

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Re: Painting of rear valance?
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2018, 04:53:00 PM »
Jim are you stating that the books don't show the phosphate pan head was used or that you believe that they were not used during production?

All of the approx second half of the production year at San Jose I've got them in pictures of unrestored cars.
I don't remember P and O discussed before, but I'll include it in the next spreadsheet as "Measured" aka found.
Jim
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Offline Morsel

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Re: Painting of rear valance?
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2018, 07:04:45 PM »
What is known is the rear valence, officially called "Extension Assembly, Lower Back Panel" by Ford, has several variations in its attaching to car. All did use 11 screws. Either the 2nd or 3rd screw from each end was installed on 64-66 San Jose build cars prior to painting to hold the panel to the car. Those "two" screws were painted body color. After painting, the remaining 9 screws were installed (along with the stud plates to the rear quarter ends) and were not painted. Other plants, and other time periods, used different procedures. As 65-66 Shelby GT-350's were San Jose built, they would be the same as regular San Jose production.
The screws used also varied. The 64,65 Mustang Body Assembly Manuals specify 380650-S101, which is a 10-12X3/4 Round/Washer head, Phillips drive screw, tapping. The 66 Mustang Body manual specifies 380934-S36 which is a 10-12X3/4 Pan head, Phillips drive screw, drill tip. Another head type found is the wafer head, mostly used for the "two" end screws. Phosphate and oil finished screws do not appear to be used.
If all 11 screws were installed at Dearborn and/or Metuchen prior to the car being painted, they would be body color.
(Note: service replacement specifies 380934-S36 which is a 8-18X1/2pan drill tip screw. It's a bit small for existing holes on 64 and 65.)
Jim

So looking into this and taking both yours and Jeffs documentation I've found this from AMK, which I know isn't always correct, but it's aligning with what we are talking about. The one image is of the AMK "66 Valance kit" it looks to have the S36 finish (if I'm reading its correctly) But then I also found this bulk screw which is aligning with what Jeff is seeing, same measurements but with an S2 finish (Phosphate and Oil Grey - Black)

Now, what to use  :-\

Jason
February 10th 1966 - San Jose - Factory GT K-Code Automatic, Candy Apple Red Fastback, Black Standard Interior

Offline J_Speegle

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Re: Painting of rear valance?
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2018, 08:26:39 PM »
Now, what to use  :-\

Either ones if they are both the same size. Just have to refinish the bright ones to the original finish
Jeff Speegle

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