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Title: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Deuce on April 13, 2017, 02:11:10 PM
Looking for complete carburetor or good core with 7D V stamped into the base.  Application is for 67 Mustang (or Cougar) 289 with CA emissions and Thermactor.
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: 67gta289 on April 13, 2017, 02:22:23 PM
I have my original, pictures attached.  C7DP -V (not C7DF-V) stamped on a brass tag.  The base is stamped with a number, not the C7DF-V.  Hope this helps in the search.

Unless of course I find out mine is not the original, and someone moved the tag over.  I would be surprised if that is the case, but it happens.
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Deuce on April 13, 2017, 02:51:31 PM
Same scenario as my car.  Somewhere along the line the carb was swapped out for a rebuild, probably more than once; it's a very high mileage car.  Brass tag (Thermactor carbs had brass tag) was transferred over and survived with the non-original carb. 

Based on photos I've seen of an original, the 7D V is stamped in the base on the throttle linkage side.  Different carbs have different stampings; the one currently on my car is 9A A which I believe is from a 69 car.  This carb also has the incorrect Venturi size, 1.08 instead of 1.14 with the 7D V.   Sometimes the stampings are light and difficult to read.



Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: preaction on April 13, 2017, 10:18:31 PM
Deuce, what makes you say the thermactor carbs came with a brass ID tag ?
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Deuce on April 13, 2017, 10:54:02 PM
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Deuce, what makes you say the thermactor carbs came with a brass ID tag ?

See the Manell book; Appendix C, annotation & photo (g), p. C-2:  "California engines in 1966/1967 required T/E.  Ford distinguished these carburetors by using brass tags."

The above corroborates what's found on my 67 C-code with CA Thermactor Emissions system (Windsor 289 Level 15) and also 67gta289's Reply #1. The brass tag reads (photo attached):
AUTOLITE
C7DF V
B 6LC
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: 67gta289 on April 14, 2017, 07:42:17 AM
Deuce,

If you look at your tag, notice the upturn on the lower horizontal line of that you think is the "F" of C7DF.  Then compare to mine.  I'm thinking yours is a C7DP like mine.   The date codes match too.

The shop manual lists C7DF-H or C7DF-N for "early" production, and C7DF-V for "late"

I don't see C7DP-V listed at all.

Do you see what I'm seeing?

John
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Deuce on April 14, 2017, 11:36:00 AM

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I don't see C7DP-V listed at all.

John,

Until I saw your tag photo I was assuming that the F in C7DF on my tag was just a poor stamping.   Now with your example, I'm not so sure. 

However, since C7DP-V isn't listed in the manuals at all and C7DF-V is, my thinking is that C7DF-V is correct and the "P" is another example of an unclear stamping.  Others might have different opinions.

With respective November and December 1966 production dates, I don't know whether our cars are considered "early" or "late."  Perhaps it has to do with a change to 289 Level 15?



Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: 67gta289 on April 14, 2017, 11:51:39 AM
I just looked through the January 67 single year MPC and neither show up.  Mine is a level 15 Cleveland assembled engine.
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Deuce on April 14, 2017, 12:00:11 PM
Of interest, West Coast Classic Cougar's description of C7DF-V (currently not in stock):

https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/c7df-9510-v.html?attribs=77 (https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/c7df-9510-v.html?attribs=77)
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Hipo giddyup on April 14, 2017, 12:20:08 PM
+1 to brass tags being associated to emissions cars.
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: Deuce on April 14, 2017, 03:06:26 PM
What started as a simple want ad has evolved into a substantive discussion about Autolite 2100 carburetors for emissions-equipped cars.  Might be worthwhile to move the thread to either 1967-1968 or Parts? 
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: preaction on April 14, 2017, 03:19:28 PM
Thanks for posting Deuce I also have a brass tag carb (4V holley) but never knew the story behind it. Does anyone know when the green tags were retired ?
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: svo2scj on April 16, 2017, 02:07:01 PM
Hi

I sold a complete 67 2V Engine to a guy on Facebook last month for $250 (with the stand)...........there is a chance that he isn't using the 2V carb.  I will contact and get numbers and see if he will sell. 

Mark

Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: ruppstang on April 16, 2017, 04:22:18 PM
Hi

I sold a complete 67 2V Engine to a guy on Facebook last month for $250 (with the stand)...........there is a chance that he isn't using the 2V carb.  I will contact and get numbers and see if he will sell. 

Mark

That was a deal!
Title: Re: Autolite 2100 C7DF-V
Post by: svo2scj on April 16, 2017, 08:45:42 PM
Yeah these guys on Facebook , post "looking for" then 5 show up for $200 BUT THEY DON"T LOOK LIKE MY CORES!
I tried to say it would be best to get a compete motor .....as you will need things like pulleys and bracket or alt cores!

Guy drove 10 hours so I was ok..

Mark
P.S.  One I have is a Mexican block from the 70's - hope that sells for a bit more (is a 4bl)