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Offline Coralsnake

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2017, 11:49:20 PM »
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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #91 on: March 25, 2018, 12:04:43 PM »

Any idea what the 5-20 written above the gray area means?

I don't like reviving old threads but found something interesting about the Shelby Work Orders. The Registry shows my car was shipped on 4/11/68 to Mel Burns Ford. The numbers on my work order above the dark box are 4-11. Could this be the date the cars were supposed to be shipped out to the dealers?
#2152 has 5-20 on his work order and and his car was shipped on 5-23-68, # 2040 has  2-19 on his work order and the car was shipped on 2-21-68. Anyone else have a work order they can look at to see if I am on the right track?

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2018, 09:52:15 PM »
I don't like reviving old threads but found something interesting about the Shelby Work Orders. The Registry shows my car was shipped on 4/11/68 to Mel Burns Ford. The numbers on my work order above the dark box are 4-11. Could this be the date the cars were supposed to be shipped out to the dealers?
#2152 has 5-20 on his work order and and his car was shipped on 5-23-68, # 2040 has  2-19 on his work order and the car was shipped on 2-21-68. Anyone else have a work order they can look at to see if I am on the right track?

Not familiar with the term "Shelby Work Order" used for 68 Shelby production.
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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #93 on: March 28, 2018, 08:48:43 AM »
HI Jeff,

I was referring to the yellow sheet I purchased from Kevin Marti. On my Marti Auto Works invoice he refers to it as the Shelby Work Order. I think in this thread, Charles Turner referred to it as the order form.



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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2018, 04:08:16 PM »

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2018, 06:43:50 PM »
HI Jeff,

I was referring to the yellow sheet I purchased from Kevin Marti. On my Marti Auto Works invoice he refers to it as the Shelby Work Order. I think in this thread, Charles Turner referred to it as the order form.

Thanks - so many different terms for the same thing. Always an issue in discussions so just wanted to clarify

Would expect that Pete and a few others (Vinny and Tim come to mind) are the ones that have studied any date spreads
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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2018, 10:13:16 PM »
LOL! Thats the one Pete! What do you think about my theory on the numbers above the dark box on the work order?

The Registry shows my car was shipped on 4/11/68 to Mel Burns Ford. The numbers on my work order above the dark box are 4-11. Could this be the date the cars were supposed to be shipped out to the dealers?
#2152 has 5-20 on his work order and and his car was shipped on 5-23-68, # 2040 has  2-19 on his work order and the car was shipped on 2-21-68.

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2018, 12:42:54 AM »
I have not studied them, but it looks like you are probably, estimated shipping date, when the paperwork was processed

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2018, 01:07:39 PM »


Love those vintage pics with hubcaps and whitewalls!   ;)
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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2018, 02:26:23 PM »
Love those vintage pics with hubcaps and whitewalls!   ;)
I got a laugh out of the CB whip.

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2018, 05:00:26 PM »
I got a laugh out of the CB whip.

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2019, 03:59:20 PM »
Just to add a little info on old thread on scheduled and built. Car I'm currently working on, 8T03S169333-1424 Scheduled 02/19/68, built 02/14/68. Gotham Ford, Sunlit Gold, A/C, 4 speed.
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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2020, 09:30:44 PM »
Let me try to help.....

Ford assigned VIN numbers are not sequential....on the first day of production Ford did not build car number 1 then car number 2.....etc

Ford VINs were assigned by the computer...so they may have built number 2, number 7 and number 10...just a hypothetical.

Then you need to consider only one of every of every 71 Mustangs built was sent to AOSmith for conversion to Shelby.

These cars were loaded on rail cars and sent to Michigan. They did not keep track of serial numbers and once cars were unloaded they could have sat outside for weeks. The first car loaded would be the last car off, the first car parked in the holding might be buried, until production caught up.

Shelby did not assign serial numbers in strict numerical order. The first five cars built were Shelby numbers 41, 339, 101, 301 and 56.

So, once you take all those items into account its entirely possible....

It is correct to say generally speaking, lower Ford serial numbers equate to lower Shelby numbers, but not always.

After slogging through this thread it left me with at least one unanswered question.

Who stamped the door VIN tag?
Did Ford stamp the door tag including Shelby number (means they knew what Shelby numbers to assign to what VIN).
OR
AO Smith added onto the Ford door tags which would have been loose (glovebox) or they removed, re-stamped and reinstalled.
OR
AO Smith had blank Ford door tags so they restamped the original Ford info, stamped the Ford VIN to which the Shelby VIN was also added.

The underhood tag is immaterial as it could be added anytime in the process by anyone.
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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #103 on: February 27, 2020, 01:09:09 PM »
The door warranty tag was stamped and installed by Ford in NJ

The Shelby number is not on the warranty tag

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Re: 68 Shelby Vin and Completion Date Discussion
« Reply #104 on: February 28, 2020, 12:12:40 PM »
This might be helpful

http://www.thecoralsnake.com/Warranty

Ford did know the “Shelby” suffix (probably after AOSmith assigned it), but it wasnt really relevant to building the “Mustang” part of the job or the NJ construction.