Author Topic: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material  (Read 17293 times)

Offline edwardgt350

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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2017, 12:29:00 PM »
description or pix of the cork plunger cover gasket?
is there any gaskets around the coarse threaded bolt/nut?

Offline 196667Bob

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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2017, 12:53:06 PM »
Here is one. Mine came in a Blue and White Ford Oval envelope, but contents the same.

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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2017, 01:20:03 PM »
So, generally then, all of the info in this thread would apply to 1965-69 Mustangs ; is that correct ?

Yes in general or likely newer depending on starter  type.  One of the reasons this thread was left in the general discussion areas that applies across many different years and models 

is there any gaskets around the coarse threaded bolt/nut?


As shown in the pictures there is a rubber insulator around the stud to insulate it from the main case
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2017, 01:22:25 PM »
is there a source for the cork cover gasket?

Offline 196667Bob

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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2017, 01:40:17 PM »
Yes, you can get an Aftermarket one that is similar (see attached picture), or "pay the price" on the one I previously pictured currently on Ebay ($11.37).

Bob
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2017, 01:45:50 PM »
after market gasket at a local napa store or npd, vcm?

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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2018, 12:35:28 PM »
Can anyone provide an image of a 1965-66 concours-correct starter for a 289?
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2018, 02:26:07 PM »
Can anyone provide an image of a 1965-66 concours-correct starter for a 289?

Currently all the ones I have pictures of either lack the correct stamping, are NOS (issues)  or are unrestored
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2018, 02:48:41 PM »
Can anyone provide an image of a 1965-66 concours-correct starter for a 289?

In a similar situation, no original image or picture was available for my application. I had to research multiple threads to determine the best information available at this time for my particular example.
If you go back to the image provided in the very beginning of this thread, you will see a picture of a straight-6 cylinder starter. Obviously, that is not the correct engineering number for your needs. It does however give you an idea what an original starter would look like for your application. Do some research. Decide on an approximate date that your car would have on it. My understanding is that yours would have the FoMoCo script similar to what is seen in that image. Next, determine what your engineering number ought to be. The MPC should help you determine that. Finally, make up a mock-stamp and bounce It off members of the community.
I seem to recall there is a thread about somebody making up a starter stamp.

The starter you wish to begin with would have no "engineering numbers" "stamped INTO" the main starter body. Later 67-up uses numbers stamped INTO the starter body INSTEAD of ink-stampings.

Your largest concern would be to locate a nose cone for your application. That item will have a visible engineering number cast into it. The rest of the starter is the same regardless whether it is from a 6-cylinder, 289, 352, 390 and so on. The rest of the starter motor (not the nose cone) doesn't matter if from an automatic or manual transmission either. That is to say that only the nose cone is the only part of the starter that is application-specific. (Well that and the ink-stamped engineering number).
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2018, 07:02:14 AM »
While re-reading this thread this morning for discussing another member's need to locate a starter for his 67, though possibly a topic for new discussion, I noticed an unanswered question about the abendix cover, "Bump or No Bump" when did the change-over occur. I did not notice an answer to that question. (See relplies #33-35)

Also, I uploaded here a few shots of my 67's "Finished" starter (any/all critique is welcome for discussion). I need a new nut for the cable still, perhaps I'll remember on my next AMK order ;)
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2018, 09:39:17 AM »
Hi there,
Is there anyone out there that has the file to get a stamp made for an October 20, 1964 scheduled SJ car? (Really jealous of Richards!  ;) )
I can modify the date if need be as my wife is a graphic designer. At worst , are there any clear images that can be used for this?
I'll be happy to share the file without the date once done if anyone needs it.
Thanks in advance,
Dan.
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2018, 09:54:12 AM »
Hi there,
Is there anyone out there that has the file to get a stamp made for an October 20, 1964 scheduled SJ car? (Really jealous of Richards!  ;) )
I can modify the date if need be as my wife is a graphic designer. At worst , are there any clear images that can be used for this?
I'll be happy to share the file without the date once done if anyone needs it.
Thanks in advance,
Dan.

I believe your design will be a lot like the image in the initial post (back on first page of this thread). I'd double check what engineering number prefix/suffix would be correct also, as well as a likely build date for the starter, that pre-dates your car by a month or so, I am just saying the "oval script design" is what I think you need.
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2018, 05:38:55 PM »
Richard, nice job on the starter.
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2018, 10:20:39 PM »
I noticed when comparing 5 starters for 289s and one for the Boss that all of them had a different style of tin cover.

Is this a good thread to show those details? Or start a new one?

Nice starter Richard.
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Re: Starter Detailing, Original Band Gasket Cardboard Material
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2018, 11:14:37 PM »
I noticed when comparing 5 starters for 289s and one for the Boss that all of them had a different style of tin cover.

Is this a good thread to show those details? Or start a new one?

I think we bumper into the subject once but we all seemed busy with the main subject at that point. Since rebuilts (which make up a good percentage of what is out there) are often a mixture of parts from different starters I would expect that your going to run across allot of Frankenstein's out there

Think it would be a good subject for a new thread as we collect original examples
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