Author Topic: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape  (Read 2392 times)

Offline J_Speegle

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As a continued, long term, effort to document 67 running changes and when they likely took place during 1967 production at San Jose. As the title states this thread we're looking at the mounting holes left unused and plugged originally stamped in the radiator support metal panel on both the passenger and drivers side. The first version was a horizontal hole that on Cougars was used to attach a sheet metal panel than made up part of the front end. On later versions the hole shape changed to a somewhat square hole in about the same location.

In a related thread about the hole plug doe the oval version of the stamped hole we had a number of examples but the main focus was on the plug and not the hole change itself.

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=16047.0

I did add the information posted in that thread to my spread sheet and data points and we did have a pretty strong finding again.

To illustrate the difference between the first version and the second or latest version I offer the pictures found below.

Illustration to show the location of the holes on both sides





Comparison of the oval and "square" punched holes



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As usual examples were placed in a spread sheet with VINs, real assembly and projected build dates as well as the condition of the example and the results are as follows. As expected we ended up with a few orphans (single examples in a collection or range with the opposite findings). As expected allot of radiator supports have been replaced and these orphans likely represent that fact.





Latest real assembly date found with the early, oval, style  March 2 1967

Earliest real assembly date found with the later, square with notch style was finished on March 8 1967
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 08:51:02 PM »
The Shelby has the oval holes in both places.
The 7R01C189340 parts car built 06C has two ovals as well.
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 10:57:40 PM »
The 7R01C189340 parts car built 06C has two ovals as well.

If I have my records correct the 06C date is the scheduled/projected date correct?
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 11:01:57 PM »
I should have stated that the parts car is the door tag scheduled date.
The Shelby is the actual Ford build date.
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 02:36:57 AM »
It is probably prudent to mention for those reading that the same Mustang radiator support was used in a Cougar. The oval and square hole being discussed was used for supporting the Cougar headlight assembly on Cougars.It was unused on a Mustang.
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 08:43:11 PM »
It is probably prudent to mention for those reading that the same Mustang radiator support was used in a Cougar. The oval and square hole being discussed was used for supporting the Cougar headlight assembly on Cougars.It was unused on a Mustang.
Just so no one is confused ,the point was to explain what the openings are for. Cougars were not built in SJ in 67 but were in Dearborn . Regardless of if built in SJ or Dearborn however the radiator supports used on the assemblyline were the same . I hope this clarifies the point on a SJ only thread.
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2021, 01:16:34 AM »
Survey graphics added
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2021, 08:52:36 AM »
Shelby GT350 1341 has ovals both places
1967 GT350 01341, FORD Build: 2/28/67 ; SAI Build 3/28/67
1966 GT 2+2, 4spd, PS, tinted windows, Raven Black w/Black Pony interior; FORD Build: 10/11/65
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1987 Saleen #132 Dark Gray Metallic

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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2021, 01:11:29 PM »
Shelby GT350 1341 has ovals both places
If you have the Marti report when the car was built at Ford would be helpful.
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2021, 02:47:06 PM »
If you have the Marti report when the car was built at Ford would be helpful.

1967 GT350 #1341
Ford Build Date 2/28/1967
1967 GT350 01341, FORD Build: 2/28/67 ; SAI Build 3/28/67
1966 GT 2+2, 4spd, PS, tinted windows, Raven Black w/Black Pony interior; FORD Build: 10/11/65
1986 SVO, Oxford White w/Leather interior
1987 Saleen #132 Dark Gray Metallic

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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2021, 06:14:32 PM »
1967 GT350 #1341
Ford Build Date 2/28/1967

Thanks - Fits nicely in the findings
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Re: 67 SJ Running Change Survey - Radiator Support Attachment Hole Shape
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2021, 08:24:02 PM »
I appreciate the assistance