1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year > 1970 Mustang
1970 Mach 1 engine capacity hood stripe blackout
J_Speegle:
--- Quote from: ClevelandKid on January 04, 2013, 10:33:49 AM ---.........Seems non shaker cars all got the sold black callout #s like the one above whether 351 or 428. Shaker cars all seemed to have white outlined #s from the factory that is unless someone else has a pic of an original unrestored shaker car with solid #s.
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Haven't looked through for the shaker stripe detail/call out but the "non shaker cars all got solid black" don't hold up as we've seen in past discussions and as I mentioned above ;)
Here are just a few examples (using Dearborn 70 only for this exercise)
NOTE- This example appears to have had the top layer (black tape layer) burn off from sun exposure.
ClevelandKid:
WoW !!! Those are the first white outlined callout #s I've seen on a non shaker car. Just goes to show the inconsistency of the 3 major plants. Aside from that I always liked the white outlined callout #s better. They really stand out and make a statement. 8)
J_Speegle:
--- Quote from: ClevelandKid on January 05, 2013, 02:05:05 PM ---WoW !!! Those are the first white outlined callout #s I've seen on a non shaker car. Just goes to show the inconsistency of the 3 major plants. ........
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Often what appears to be inconsistencies are just unrecognized patterns ;)
A possibility IMHO given what we see it appears that the white outlined decals might not have been ready (or an after thought at the beginning of production but later were - replacing the earlier version. Sort of like the non- reflective 69 Mach I stripes (used at first) that were replaced with reflective ones once 3M figured out how to make them
sah62:
--- Quote from: J_Speegle on January 05, 2013, 11:08:04 PM ---Often what appears to be inconsistencies are just unrecognized patters ;)
A possibility IMHO given what we see it appears that the white outlined decals might not have been ready (or an after thought0 at the beginning of production but later were - replacing the earlier version.
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I think this is closest to reality. My own research seems to indicate that one version of the decals replaced the other, and an April 1970 MPC and 1974 OSI manual both confirm the replacements. Here's the MPC detail:
Black, before 12/1/69351D0ZZ-16B621-ABlack, before 12/1/69428D0ZZ-16B621-EWhite, before 12/1/69351D0ZZ-16B621-BWhite, before 12/1/69428D0ZZ-16B621-FBlack, from 12/1/69351D0ZZ-16B621-GBlack, from 12/1/69428D0ZZ-16B621-JWhite, from 12/1/69351D0ZZ-16B621-HWhite, from 12/1/69428D0ZZ-16B621-K
I just haven't figured out which of these are the solid color decals and which are outlined. I think the first set are the solid colors, but that's only because the outlined decals are the ones that were most recently available.
J_Speegle:
--- Quote from: sah62 on January 06, 2013, 12:17:16 PM ---I think this is closest to reality. My own research seems to indicate that one version of the decals replaced the other, .............................
I just haven't figured out which of these are the solid color decals and which are outlined. I think the first set are the solid colors, but that's only because the outlined decals are the ones that were most recently available.
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Thanks Scott - Now we need to cross reference IMHO that info to the assembly lines to see if it matches or it changes the change over. Maybe I'll take my list and have Kevin M get me the real dates for each car I have data points on.
If I remember from earlier discussions the dates from the car (agreed that these were only projected build dates) had a great variance between plants but that might reflect using up the old/first style before changing over a common practice when the change was not related to safety
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