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Offline scj4dad

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Mach I Trunk Stripe With and Without MACH I
« on: October 24, 2013, 04:44:56 PM »
I have just bought my second 69 CJ car. I was reading about the reflective stripes on the trunk lid.  The early Mach 1's the word Mach 1 was not in the stripe.  My car was a Dearborn built car 12/3/68.  Should it have the word Mach 1 in the stripe or not?  Would appreciate any information.  Thanks

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 06:46:17 PM »
.....Should it have the word Mach 1 in the stripe or not?.......
Ours 69 mach1 does. 2/24/69, Metuchen built.

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 10:03:40 PM »
Thanks for the info.

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 10:37:56 AM »
Now on some of the factory release photos, the rear "mach1" is missing. The photo that comes to mind is the guy standing there with a racing suit on with the, what appears to be lime gold in color, 69 mach1. 

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 01:56:50 PM »
     On the CJ Registry a fellow, from the upper Midwest, saying he was the original owner stated that his car had no 'MACH 1' in the rear stripe.  He also stated that he was the original owner of this early Dearborn SCJ.  This conversation occurred within the last year.  You might try that site for more info.  Brian 
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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 10:06:59 PM »
Mine from San Jose 11/19/68 had Mach 1 in the trunk stripe.
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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2013, 12:12:06 AM »
Not enough original paint cars with original stripes to get a hard date IMHO of when the change took place. Found evidence of NJ cars receiving non- lettered trunk stripes into mid December

Do have a Dearborn Mach (vin 9F02x142xxx) with the Mach I in the stripe

Other Dearborn examples without the Mach I (136xxx and later) were both non- factory since pictures suggest that the trunk lid was repaired and repainted since the MUSTANG were deleted - likely filled with bondo :(

Sorry can't be specific but this has been a long discussed topic here and on other sites over the years.

An interesting side note is that the early stripes were not reflective (sorry never wrote down the date when it changed) since 3M was having problems with the reflective tape production. Way before you car was built though ;)
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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 12:36:48 PM »
For a data point, my May 19, 1969 Metuchan build, unrestored, original paint, 69 Mach 1  did have the Mach 1 on the trunk lid.

Sold the car last summer.
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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2013, 09:50:12 PM »
 
 Hello, First post / new member

   Just finding this thread now.
 My 12/68  NJ. built, has no MACH 1 on the stripe.
 Lucky enough to have found the original owner and got some pictures from him.
 
 Great site here. Hope to meet some new people and get my Mach 1 back into excellent shape.
 Steve
 

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2013, 09:53:29 PM »

 One more picture. Truck view.
  Are these Mach 1 delete decals still available?
 Steve

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 09:07:24 AM »
For further reference, 69390 date was 12/68 "no mach1" in stripe
app01 5/19/69, has "mach1" in stripe.  Both Metuchen built.


Our 2/24/69 Metuchen built, has "mach1" in the stripe.

So, now that narrows it down to a 2 month window.

See if we can get more to respond.  With Dearborn and San Jose also.


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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2013, 09:09:29 AM »
One more picture. Truck view.
  Are these Mach 1 delete decals still available?
 Steve
69390, what is the color of the mach1 in the photo?

And also, I can't really tell, but is there not "mach1" in the fender stripe either?

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2013, 01:51:37 PM »

The color is Meadow lark Yellow.
 I'm very lucky to have found the complete ownership history of this Mach 1.
 I bought it from N.C.  The seller said it was only a 3 owner car.
I contacted the N.C. DMV and they did a title history search.   15 Bucks!
 I received-- (Copies)-The certificate of origin from Ford dated 12/27/68 assigning the VIN.
  The original title (paperwork)to the  selling dealership and titles from every owner from day 1 to today.
 It stayed in about a 60 mile radius for over 40 years until I brought it to Ma. in 2012.  And there were actually 5 owners. Talking to the 3rd owner, he bought it with a 70 Boss 302 and a 70 boss 351, so its been in good
company and not a daily driver for someone.
 The odometer reads 54,000 miles--the titles all have the mileage readings and dates on the back when the car was sold and perfectly match up to the next title with no gaps.
 Pretty lucky.
 There are a couple factory stamps still visible (hard to read) on the body panels.  Date tags/stamps, body buck tag.

 It was hit in 74 and needed a full drivers side quarter and the whole car was repainted the same color according to the first and third owner. The only people I have talked too.
 and looks untouched today from that date.
 but its been worked on.

 I would like at some point to have it checked out by an MCA judge just to see how original it is. Good and bad points.  Anyone in the MA.Area?
 I'll e-mail the original owner to see it the side stripes had the MACH 1 in them.
He has the original grill emblem and rear seat belts.  I need to get them:)
 
Steve


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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2013, 04:47:23 PM »
I know this is an older thread, but I found these pics in Donald Farr's "Mustang Fifty Years" book that I got for Christmas.

This is the photo that I was referring to in my second post on this thread.

The guy with the white racing suit on in an apparent factory release photo of the 69 Mach1.

Not only does it not have "mach 1" in the rear deck stripe, it doesn't have a stripe at all.

Thought this would be interesting to see. 

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Re: 1969 mach1 stripes on trunk
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2013, 10:59:25 PM »
Lots of pictures of most of the preproduction cars have some non production details  that are different. One of the general reasons advertising and brochure pictures are often poor research material when doing restorations.

Have seen a number of Mach I's without the lettering in the side stripes - was long ago so no VINs to track and no way to tell if the stripes were original or early replacements

Also never saw any documentation with a reference to the no name stripes  though have seen documents that discussed the non-reflective early stripes (a 3M  supply problem/issue)  for the first production 69 Mach's
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