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Offline Hipo giddyup

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2018, 02:01:51 PM »
For paint inspector what you report would follow the typical pattern we see- One inspector for the unibody - one for the panels shot off the car but located in another section of the plant

So I have some input to this thread as well. I just picked up a matched pair of fenders off of an early 66' built car, (maybe around late Oct./ early Nov. 65), pretty sure from NJ (has the Martz stamp). The funny thing is the driver's side fender is stamped "MARTZ" where as the passenger side fender is stamped "KRRWIN" or "KERWIN" (it really looks like two R's)?????? Does this mean one inspector was on one side, the another inspector on the other?  :o Or maybe someone left in mid stream to take lunch and the other filled in?? LoL
 Could it be possible for two different stamps on each of the fenders??

Dr. side "MARTZ"  stamping 10 23 D2
Pass. side "KRRWIN"  stamping 10 27 3
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2018, 02:44:21 PM »
............... Could it be possible for two different stamps on each of the fenders??

NJ inspection stamping practices were different from both he other plants both, it appears, in style and when they were placed on the car/body. Did you get a good look at the top section of the stamp for both names as they may have been different stamps (purpose) from one another sort of similar in practice to early Dearborn stamps from 64-65 where they were for other things other than just the paint
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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2018, 03:25:25 PM »
So I have some input to this thread as well. I just picked up a matched pair of fenders off of an early 66' built car, (maybe around late Oct./ early Nov. 65), pretty sure from NJ (has the Martz stamp). The funny thing is the driver's side fender is stamped "MARTZ" where as the passenger side fender is stamped "KRRWIN" or "KERWIN" (it really looks like two R's)?????? Does this mean one inspector was on one side, the another inspector on the other?  :o Or maybe someone left in mid stream to take lunch and the other filled in?? LoL
 Could it be possible for two different stamps on each of the fenders??

Dr. side "MARTZ"  stamping 10 23 D2
Pass. side "KRRWIN"  stamping 10 27 3
Went back to post #37 and corrected it to say KRRWIN who stamped the drivers side hood in that example so we can probably conclude he wasn’t stuck on the passenger side only
66 GT 6T09K12---- scheduled Oct 14, bucked Oct 13 '65

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2018, 04:10:50 PM »
 If I am understanding correctly Jeff, I'm guessing you are referring to a "Body" OK, etc.? For the final assembly? Unfortunately i cannot make out what is above the KRRWIN stamp.

sgllbs: Thanks for the response. So you believe it does say KRRWIN as well?? I thought it might have also been a smearring of the stamp?
1967 Springtime Yellow Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Metuchen built, Nov. 17th 66'
1966 Sahara Beige Coupe, 289 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, July 21st 66'
1964 1/2 Pagoda Green Coupe, 260 2v 3spd, Dearborn built, June 30th 64'
1966 GT350 Fastback clone, 289 HiPo, 725cfm Holley, 4spd, SanJose built, Nov 25th 65'

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2018, 05:25:20 PM »
sgllbs: Thanks for the response. So you believe it does say KRRWIN as well?? I thought it might have also been a smearing of the stamp?
Yes looks like KRRWIN to me. Also look at reply #2 in thread, Looks to be a KRRWIN on the same date stamped fender
66 GT 6T09K12---- scheduled Oct 14, bucked Oct 13 '65

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2018, 06:11:57 PM »
Just something that should be mentioned - not to suggest that the ones being discussed here are not legible 

There were two inspectors who's stamped name started with "K" in 66. Clearly looks like that name includes two or three "E"s in it

Amy even be an possibility that its the same inspector but the first version wasn't correct or to his likely so it was remade and used later in the year. Might be a stretch - just looking at the possibilities.  Example below is from 6T16xxxxx

So on stamps that are not in the greatest condition the two can be confused

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2018, 08:07:02 PM »
Just something that should be mentioned - not to suggest that the ones being discussed here are not legible 

There were two inspectors who's stamped name started with "K" in 66. Clearly looks like that name includes two or three "E"s in it

Amy even be an possibility that its the same inspector but the first version wasn't correct or to his likely so it was remade and used later in the year. Might be a stretch - just looking at the possibilities.  Example below is from 6T16xxxxx

So on stamps that are not in the greatest condition the two can be confused


Reply 2 is from car 1612xx and clearly ends with the letter N. Reply 37 is from car 229xxx and is clearly K_RWIN so switching to KEEFE later in the year is unlikely.

Hard to tell if the stamps are worn or clogged with paint or if they loaded it with paint and stamped 2 or 3 places before reloading.
66 GT 6T09K12---- scheduled Oct 14, bucked Oct 13 '65

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2018, 08:14:07 PM »
Reply 2 is from car 1612xx and clearly ends with the letter N. Reply 37 is from car 229xxx and is clearly K_RWIN so switching to KEEFE later in the year is unlikely.

Given those findings I agree. Just looking for possibilities but obviously that one failed

Hard to tell if the stamps are worn or clogged with paint or if they loaded it with paint and stamped 2 or 3 places before reloading.

May be an issue some times but at least in the clear stampings where the letter made full contact it appears that we have two inspectors at NJ in 65-6 that started with the letter "K"
Jeff Speegle

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Re: "Paint OK" markings 66 NJ Mustang
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2018, 08:07:11 PM »
Found some more good ones in my files....Last number on VIN# withheld....to protect the innocent...since they are Sprint 200 registry members.  The last one is very interesting... #157 Painted on the Upper Hood (Metuchen Plant Quality Control??).  These are all from Original unrestored cars.

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