Topic: 1969 B2 Starter Part #

[Gcodecowboy]

Is this the correct starter for a 69 Boss 302?
C9AF-11001-B
Thank you,
Mike

[Bob Gaines]

Is this the correct starter for a 69 Boss 302?
C9AF-11001-B
Thank you,
Mike

C9AF-11001-B is for a 302 or 351W auto.  C9AF -11001-F C7AF-11001-F is for 4 speed.

[Gcodecowboy]

C9AF-11001-B is for a 302 or 351W auto.  C9AF -11001-F is for 4 speed.

Thank you Bob. That is exactly the information that I am looking for.

Mike

[hopey]

Thank you Bob. That is exactly the information that I am looking for.

Mike

The 1969 BOSS 302 starter is C7AF-11001-F.
The 1970 BOSS 302 starter is D0AF-11001-C

[Bob Gaines]

The 1969 BOSS 302 starter is C7AF-11001-F.
The 1970 BOSS 302 starter is D0AF-11001-C

Thanks for catching my typo .Yes I meant to write C7AF-11001-F for the 68/69 4 speed 302 including Boss and 351W.

[Bob Gaines]

You will find 30 C9AF-11001-B or more marked starter cases to every 1 marked C7AF-11001-F. Keep in mind that most original starters have been rebuilt at least once by now. Rebuilders did not care or pay attention to what was marked on the case so you may find the correct marked 302 4 speed case but it may be built around a FE 3 ear nose cone etc.

[hopey]

You will find 30 C9AF-11001-B or more marked starter cases to every 1 marked C7AF-11001-F. Keep in mind that most original starters have been rebuilt at least once by now. Rebuilders did not care or pay attention to what was marked on the case so you may find the correct marked 302 4 speed case but it may be built around a FE 3 ear nose cone etc.

Bob that is true for most used and remanufactured parts, it is the difference between what fits and what is correct. Finding a D0AF-C for my 70 was certainly a challenge, I purchased several old starters to get all the correct pieces to assemble a working original.

[Bob Gaines]

The unique 4 speed nose cone that was used starting in 68 is the second hardest piece to find after the correct marked case. I pick them up whenever I see a core with one.

[Bossbill]

I seem to recall that the block plate opening and nose diameter where it fits into the plate were a different size than earlier starter noses.
Do we have the diameter of the nose where it fit into the blockplate opening?

[Bob Gaines]

I seem to recall that the block plate opening and nose diameter where it fits into the plate were a different size than earlier starter noses.
Do we have the diameter of the nose where it fit into the blockplate opening?

Not a problem if you use the correct 68 and up block plate and bellhousing with the correct 68 and up 164 flywheel.

[Bob Gaines]

I was side stepping the question because I am away from my parts to measure. Maybe someone else can measure.

[hopey]

I seem to recall that the block plate opening and nose diameter where it fits into the plate were a different size than earlier starter noses.
Do we have the diameter of the nose where it fit into the blockplate opening?

Not sure about the diameter, I have never really noticed a difference. I would measure but I am in the middle of final preparations & cleaning my BOSS for next weeks MCA Grand National. What I do know is that getting the correct depth so you engage the ring gear fully, there is a long nose (2-3/8 inch effective depth if my memory is correct) and a shorter 2inch .  As Bob states they are often mixed up and if you see a 4speed MT long nose 164tooth starter at a swap meet, grab it!

[Gcodecowboy]

What should the part number be on the nose cone of a C7AF-11001-F starter?