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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: rodster on January 07, 2017, 01:27:22 AM
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In case anyone is going to Scottsdale here is a potential original car to view.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-FORD-MUSTANG-CONVERTIBLE-200866
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Going on Thursday and will take a look at it...
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Hard for me believe that is an untouched survivor.
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It does look like the engine bay was possibly repainted. Some of the hardware appears to of been painted over. Left fender has what looks to be a little bit of black on the edge.
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i see quite a few things wrong. boot, hose and overflow tank, tires?
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+1 to the engine bay being at least "touched up", looks like tape lines around the shock tower sticker and bolts being painted over, overspray on the horn wiring, etc.. yet it states all original? Seeing is believing in this case, still a nice example. I hear there will be a bunch of VERY low mile fox bodies, some with under 50 miles and no dealer prep... quite impressive though a bit off topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjkuntmkSc
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Been to B-J in Scottsdale and Russo & Steele when Charles was selling his convert. Also been to Las Vegas B-J twice. Most of the time the pictures look good but the cars don't. I am only talking early cars. Some of the cars get sold and then on to the next auction.
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+1 to the engine bay being at least "touched up", looks like tape lines around the shock tower sticker and bolts being painted over, overspray on the horn wiring, etc.. yet it states all original? Seeing is believing in this case, still a nice example. I hear there will be a bunch of VERY low mile fox bodies, some with under 50 miles and no dealer prep... quite impressive though a bit off topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrjkuntmkSc
I'll take the SVO. Pretty sure that's an original car! ;) Not so sure about the '65.
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Hard to say what has been touched up without seeing in person. I would have removed the aftermarket overflow.
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$82,500 :o
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That's nuts. Will post some pics of the car tomorrow evening. Any requests on certain areas?
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That's nuts. Will post some pics of the car tomorrow evening. Any requests on certain areas?
Start with list:
1.) everything you can see
2.) everything you cannot see ;)
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It looks to me like the "Battery OK" sticker has black spray paint on it. Also where are the unique convertible braces in the engine compartment? This is a 65 not a 64.5 car. Weren't the braces factory installed by then? The VIN starts with 330xxx.
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Also where are the unique convertible braces in the engine compartment? This is a 65 not a 64.5 car. Weren't the braces factory installed by then? The VIN starts with 330xxx.
The braces were added around November '64.
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The braces were added around November '64.
+1
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2250.msg11509#msg11509 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2250.msg11509#msg11509)
Just one of a handful of threads
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Definitely some touch-up in that engine bay. See lots of bolts painted black that should be phosphate.
Body lines are really nice, hood/headlight area has great fit.
Mike M. might have to consider selling his cars now!
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I'll take the SVO. Pretty sure that's an original car! ;) Not so sure about the '65.
$63,800 for an SVO? :o :o Barrett Jackson VooDoo
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As promised here are some pics of the car. The car was locked so I was unable to get any dataplate information on it. Also the trunk was closed...There was a lot of undercoating on the car...
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Thanks for sharing. Undercarriage is a bit shocking, even leaf springs replaced.
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Thanks for sharing. Undercarriage is a bit shocking, even leaf springs replaced.
I was expecting this but not quite to the extent it turned out to be. Just another example of the originality being over hyped on a auction car. I wonder if the buyer who paid the 82K did so thinking it was untouched underneath and under the hood?
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The seller must be on cloud nine! You would think they would have cleaned it up a little better.
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The seller must be on cloud nine! You would think they would have cleaned it up a little better.
No doubt
As far as cleaning, it's hard to tell where the black spray bomb paint starts and the dealer undercoating starts. Doing any cleaning would most likely open a can of worms. I would have at least expected factory leaf springs, doesn't make any sense why they would be replaced on a 14k mile car. I bet the originals were fine, probably just rusty.
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Thanks for sharing. Undercarriage is a bit shocking, even leaf springs replaced.
Yea....... whaaaat ? :o
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What in the world is that galvanized piece between the gas tank and the rear axle? It looks so out of place to me...
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What in the world is that galvanized piece between the gas tank and the rear axle? It looks so out of place to me...
The muffler?
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Wow, there is a lot of black spray paint on that thing!
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I guess it is the muffler. In one shot, it extends all the way to the driver's side leaf spring. (maybe it is the angle of the photo)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15104.0;attach=35197;image)
I'm not that familiar with a single pipe system; I always had an A-code with dual exhausts.
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Yup, muffler. I believe it should be at about an 11 degree angle like this one.
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I guess it is the muffler. In one shot, it extends all the way to the driver's side leaf spring. (maybe it is the angle of the photo)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15104.0;attach=35197;image)
I'm not that familiar with a single pipe system; I always had an A-code with dual exhausts.
What do you want to bet the muffler has been replaced too.
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+1
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What do you want to bet the muffler has been replaced too.
No betting required, lol
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Thats some good marketing. These pictures compared to the Auction pictures makes it look like another car found on eBay. That muffler looks like something that should be attached to my furnace. It has that perfect Uhaul Galvanized look. My new muffler leans like that. I always thought there was something wrong with it. Was that to allow for drainage? I don't recall seeing any drain holes.
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That looks like the replacement Ford muffler, which was shorter than OEM and included 2 short pipe extensions.
There is no drain in the muffler. I don't think they were cocked over at an angle much when original. There are very few 65-66 cars that have original rear mufflers on them these days, they are extremely rare to find NOS.
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To: ChrisV289, What was your opinion of the paint, glass, sheet metal and top? Did those seem like original and appropriate to a 14,000 mile, 50+ year old car or was the description exaggerated on those areas too?
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The paint seemed ok. I really did not see any flaws that stood out. I did not check out the date codes on the glass and I didn't look at the top all that much to give an opinion.
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Having seen this BJ car in person I can advise that the "originality" claim was liberal. 50 year old original cars when compared to a restored version, even to the untrained eye appear dull and worn. This is no secret. If you could have the Perkins car and the Florida Hipo seen here with similar mileage alongside the BJ car the differences would jump out.
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee444/henford64/2016sDSC01855_zpsb9v9dtcr.jpg)
Having seen all three the BJ car looked to be an older, maybe mid eighties partial restoration the utilized new and old materials which would have been more plentiful during that time period to bring this car back to it's current condition.
Just my .02
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