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Title: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on July 17, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
I just thought I would explore the radio suppressors a bit.  Take a look at my Blog post (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2013/07/just-detailsmustang-radio-suppressors.html) for more examples and images, and give me any observations and feedback as to what you all have observed.  Thanks.


(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6LDe51gRVXg/UeWVQNPXM2I/AAAAAAAA43U/baeuMPYEs-U/s400/IMG_5370.JPG) (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2013/07/just-detailsmustang-radio-suppressors.html)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b_MujA8k6r4/UeWRMx1utjI/AAAAAAAA42c/cICZeliTB_M/s400/IMG_5364.JPG) (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2013/07/just-detailsmustang-radio-suppressors.html)

http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2013/07/just-detailsmustang-radio-suppressors.html
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: krelboyne on July 17, 2013, 04:06:39 PM
I will have to polish some of mine up to see what I find. There is at least one other version of the C6OA version, without the 648 number.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: jwc66k on July 17, 2013, 04:32:43 PM
I have 17 RFI suppressors in my pile of stuff. All have the "648" on the base, either in the center or the bottom, some in an oval. Some have no other marking other than the part number, C6OA-18832-A and 648. I have one marked C3SA-18832-A and 632 only. There are several that include the Autolite name and logo. I also have two with the FOMOCO logo. Unfortunately I can't tell what year or plant that any of them came from.
Jim
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: krelboyne on July 17, 2013, 07:40:03 PM
Sorry for the out of focus picture but I found 4 different C6OA suppressors.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/CougarCJ/IMG_0683-1028_zps30c5c312.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/CougarCJ/media/IMG_0683-1028_zps30c5c312.jpg.html)

I also have a pair of Motorcraft D2AA suppressors.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/CougarCJ/IMG_0684-1028_zpse513d0ee.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/CougarCJ/media/IMG_0684-1028_zpse513d0ee.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on July 17, 2013, 08:06:05 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  I actually found still another Autolite stamped version that is not shown in my pictures or the four pictures above.  Apparently, there were quite a few variations of those C6OA numbered suppressors.  I'm not sure if they are all assembly line versions or not.

Any other feedback is welcome.  Thanks again, guys.

Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: carlite65 on July 17, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
great topic. it's about time someone discussed these which are often missing on cars i have judged over the years.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: mjd 65 on August 25, 2013, 01:27:44 AM
I just cleaned up the suppressor from my July 65 Metuchen built car.  It has the C35A-18832-A part number and 648 in the circle.  Did the changeover to the internal suppressor in the 66 alternator affect the part number of the suppressor at the voltage regulator?
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Chris on November 17, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
Did the radio suppressor go on the voltage regulator for generator cars? My June 64 has a suppressor on the backside of the generator (different style for that application than what's shown above) but not one on the voltage regulator. Didn't see one called out in the 64 electrical manual either.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 17, 2013, 09:32:56 PM
Did the radio suppressor go on the voltage regulator for generator cars? My June 64 has a suppressor on the backside of the generator (different style for that application than what's shown above) but not one on the voltage regulator. Didn't see one called out in the 64 electrical manual either.

Yes, but it's a different style radio suppressor, attaches to one of the voltage regulator terminals.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Chris on November 17, 2013, 09:42:50 PM
Charles,

Do you happen to have a picture of this style of suppressor for voltage regulators on generator-equipped cars? I'm missing mine, would like to be correct if possible.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on February 21, 2014, 09:18:43 AM
The radio suppressors have been completed.  The wiring pigtails are being installed soon.  I'll have pictures and more details soon.

We will have the 65 version with the C3SA-18832-A number, the 66-early 67 version with the C6OA-18832-A and FoMoCo script, and the late 67-up version with the C6OA-18832-A and Autolite logo.

They look great.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: drummingrocks on February 21, 2014, 12:28:47 PM
The radio suppressors have been completed.  The wiring pigtails are being installed soon.  I'll have pictures and more details soon.

We will have the 65 version with the C3SA-18832-A number, the 66-early 67 version with the C6OA-18832-A and FoMoCo script, and the late 67-up version with the C6OA-18832-A and Autolite logo.

They look great.

Brant, so you (or VCM) are reproducing these?  If so, that's great!  Let us know when they're available.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on February 21, 2014, 03:52:35 PM
Brant, so you (or VCM) are reproducing these?  If so, that's great!  Let us know when they're available.

Yes.  This is a project that Virginia Classic Mustang is doing exclusively.  This enabled us to really control the quality.

We have been working with an engineer and a manufacturer that have both done a great job.  I'm extremely pleased with the product.  The stamping of the part numbers and logo look great, the finish is correct, the wiring pigtail is authentic, and the part works as it is supposed to.

This was a rather big project, and we wanted it to really be right.  Hopefully, folks respond by buying them and we may have a few other previously unavailable parts reproduced.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: J_Speegle on February 21, 2014, 08:56:23 PM
Yes.  This is a project that Virginia Classic Mustang is doing exclusively.  This enabled us to really control the quality....

Brant if you don't mind how many units do you have to have made in order for this all to work out for you?

Been involved with a few reproductions and some might be amazed by the commitment it takes to make even a small fairly straight forward piece like this

If its prying too much - just ignore - will understand :)
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on February 22, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
Brant if you don't mind how many units do you have to have made in order for this all to work out for you?

Been involved with a few reproductions and some might be amazed by the commitment it takes to make even a small fairly straight forward piece like this

If its prying too much - just ignore - will understand :)

Not a problem.  The run had to be over 1000 of each one...and there are three different versions.  And I still don't know how it will all work out.  It just depends if folks want them and buy them.

Now a question for you and others.  What did this particular version of the suppressor fit?

So far, I think I'm correct in saying the following:

65-71 Mustangs (use on 72-73, of course too, but they were marked Motorcraft)

67-71 Cougar

65-71 Fairlane

68-70 Torino

65-70 Falcon

65-71 Ranchero

Am I correct?  Any comments on Galaxies?

Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Richard P. on February 22, 2014, 10:10:33 AM
At some point in time I've worked on all of those Fords. I recall seeing the suppressors on all of the models with radios.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on February 22, 2014, 12:15:03 PM
At some point in time I've worked on all of those Fords. I recall seeing the suppressors on all of the models with radios.

Thanks, Richard.  Yes, I think all radio equipped cars used them.  It's just a matter of if the bracket configuration is the same.  I believe it is.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on March 08, 2014, 05:33:56 PM
Here are some pictures.  These will be available soon.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GMLskE6Rl9c/UxuLdg89tAI/AAAAAAABCfA/eJBCHlwP_uQ/s640/eg387.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-qRhbGtkeEWQ/UxuLeMaehCI/AAAAAAABCfQ/YhTlJAUqNek/s400/eg387_a.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q6ANetOSzrQ/UxuLeGclmeI/AAAAAAABCfU/uvEwDDtSiSA/s400/eg387_b.jpg)
1965

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2GjGP_xhulE/UxuLdjokIoI/AAAAAAABCfI/jNr4DLCZKSI/s400/eg3871_b.jpg)
1966

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-A8tZTzmYk78/UxuLdpA-HrI/AAAAAAABCfE/tKYefmvT8Ic/s400/eg3872_c.jpg)
1967-71
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: J_Speegle on March 08, 2014, 07:40:55 PM
Ohhh..... Ahhhh

looks great Brant - nice work
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: MyRed66GT on March 08, 2014, 07:56:53 PM
I need one for my 66 GT! How much and when are they available?
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on March 09, 2014, 06:12:28 AM
What about the ones for the alternator Brant?? any chance they will be done?? The one in the second picture looks like the bracket is in the center like the alternator condenser.....may be just the angle.....
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on March 09, 2014, 04:03:59 PM
I need one for my 66 GT! How much and when are they available?

I'm hoping that we will have them available for sale and shipment within 2-3 weeks.  I'll definitely post them on our Blog (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/) and here in the parts for sale section as soon as they are available.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on March 09, 2014, 04:05:47 PM
What about the ones for the alternator Brant?? any chance they will be done?? The one in the second picture looks like the bracket is in the center like the alternator condenser.....may be just the angle.....

Actually, we are working on the ones for the '65 alternator.  If these go over well, we will pull the trigger on the alternator ones.

Yes, I see what you mean on the second picture, but it's just the angle of the shot.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on March 10, 2014, 09:06:29 AM
Actually, we are working on the ones for the '65 alternator.  If these go over well, we will pull the trigger on the alternator ones.

Yes, I see what you mean on the second picture, but it's just the angle of the shot.

Thanks Brant! That would be great!  just hoping that you can see fit to get these done. understanding that there is really only a small (to me) amount of '65s AFTER Generator equipped and BEFORE the change in VERY LATE '65 to the '66 style with INTERNAL condenser.....

I see the regulator condensers available from time to time, but NEVER the alternator ones!

Thanks Again For All You Do For The Hobby!
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: CharlesTurner on March 10, 2014, 10:28:01 AM
The suppressors look really nice Brant, good job!
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brian Conway on March 10, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
The one on my 69;  C6OA 18832-A/648/FoMoCo    Brian
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Hipo giddyup on March 11, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
 Indeed, excellent job Brant! I will be ordering one for my 66 fastback and 67 coupe :).  But, back to the question that i believe Chris was asking, the ones correct for the generator cars. Did they have a suppressor on both the regulator and at the generator?? I didn't see either when I started my 64 1/2 restoration... Would absolutley want to buy these too. Anyone have any pics???? Perhaps Jeff?
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on March 11, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
Indeed, excellent job Brant! I will be ordering one for my 66 fastback and 67 coupe :).  But, back to the question that i believe Chris was asking, the ones correct for the generator cars. Did they have a suppressor on both the regulator and at the generator?? I didn't see either when I started my 64 1/2 restoration... Would absolutley want to buy these too. Anyone have any pics???? Perhaps Jeff?

The generator cars had one at the voltage regulator.  It is a bit shorter, the bracket is different and the wire end is  different.  I'm sure you could use this new one, but there are differences.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6GWVBrZ-Nwc/UtVGJU8o3ZI/AAAAAAABBA8/UrT6uszJD0c/w500/IMG_6459.JPG)
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Chris on March 12, 2014, 10:11:18 PM
There was one for the generator too. I have one and pictures, just not with me (out of state now), will post when I can. The generator suppressor bracket is centered on the suppressor (vice at the end) with the cable the attaches under one of the nuts on the back of the generator. I can't recall for sure, but I think Manel's book may have a picture of the generator suppressor. I've just never seen an example of the type for generator equipped cars at the voltage regulator, so thanks Brant! If you have a pic of the end markings that would be great.

Chris
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on April 03, 2014, 05:43:05 PM
We now have these in stock!

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=8308.0
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on May 10, 2014, 07:58:51 AM
Anything on the alternator ones yet? or is it a bit too early to make a descission?
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Richard P. on May 10, 2014, 11:41:09 PM
I think that Brant wanted to see how the voltage regulators noise suppressors went before pulling the trigger on the ones for the alternator.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on May 11, 2014, 02:12:18 PM
Anything on the alternator ones yet? or is it a bit too early to make a descission?

It is being quoted, but nothing is certain yet.  We will look at the quantities and cost.  Thanks for the interest.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on May 19, 2014, 10:58:43 AM
Thanks Brant!!
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on September 01, 2014, 07:38:28 AM
What the latest on the '65 Alternator ones Brant??
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: Brant on September 01, 2014, 06:20:43 PM
What the latest on the '65 Alternator ones Brant??

I should have samples this month.  I don't expect a problem with quality after seeing the other ones.  They turned out great.  I just have to look at price and quantity.  It still will probably be several months if we carry through with it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on September 03, 2014, 10:37:04 AM
Brant, Is it possible to put out a feeler in the entire Mustang community to see just how many people would be interested in purchasing or pre-purchasing them?

I know there is really a small window for these '65 only alternator suppressors use.....from the first alternator equipped cars to the start (or earlier) of the '66 production.......also guessing they are used on other '65 Ford/Mercury vehicles in the same time period...
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on December 10, 2014, 08:34:29 AM
Anything new on the possibility of the Alternator ones?  Hopefully they will be made, I'd love to be able to get one for the Voltage regulator and 1 for the Alternator on mine!
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: mgmradio on December 10, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
I believe NPD may be working on reproducing the one for the alternator.
Title: Re: Radio Suppressors at the Voltage Regualtor
Post by: 5F08KGT on December 11, 2014, 07:35:12 AM
Oh Wow. Thanks! I thought Brant was working on it......