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Title: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Patrk71 on June 19, 2010, 01:34:05 PM
When I bought my 65 Mustang it had hard cardboard visors with a plastic edging stitched around the visor. 
They of course were disintegrating and I replaced them in '71 with the plastic/foam visors that are still available from the parts houses.

The hard cardboard visors were the same size as the 'new' plastic/foam visors.  Did the Falcon have hard cardboard visors?
The original hinges and posts all worked with both sets of visors as I could afford the 'new' plastic/foam visors but, not the hinges and posts back then.

Does anyone know of the hard cardboard visors or where to get a repo?

Patrick
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Brant on June 19, 2010, 02:25:49 PM
The sunvisors you describe are the "standard" sunvisors for your car.  The Padded Sunvisors were an option.  The Standard sunvisors are not available as a reproduction that I know of.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 20, 2010, 01:36:03 AM
Agree with Brant.

NOS visors are your only option.  Most originals warp up or disintegrate like yours.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Patrk71 on June 20, 2010, 09:25:51 AM
Any suggestions on where to look for NOS hard cardboard visors?

I have checked several of the big name supply houses but found only the padded visors.

Thanks...
            Patrick
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 20, 2010, 10:47:39 AM
Ebay, Hemming's, obsolete parts dealers.  Sorry, but not as easy as picking up a catalog.   

Keep in mind that convertible is different than coupe/fastback, even with the cardboard ones.

One last thing... it wouldn't be that far-fetched to consider making them.  The trick would be to get the right thickness material with a grain pattern. 
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: 5F09CNot4Sale on June 20, 2010, 11:17:56 AM
Can someone please post a picture of what they look like?
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: NEFaurora on June 20, 2010, 07:13:36 PM

Yeah, Great thread...I'd heard of these years ago, but never seen the "EL CHEAPO" Ford visors... Was this just a '65 thing?  I'm "guessing" it was...Since I've never seen andy '66's with them..By then there were probably standard.

Tony K.

Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 20, 2010, 11:06:55 PM
Yes Tony, it was a '65 thing.  Padded visors became std. equipment in '66.

I believe I have a black convertible one, NOS, but it's probably over at the storage unit.  They basically look the same as the padded visors, just made with the fiber material.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: 5F09CNot4Sale on June 20, 2010, 11:23:46 PM
  They basically look the same as the padded visors, just made with the fiber material.

Charles, so are the just covered cardboard (moonskin for coupe, vinyl for vert) or painted cardboard.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Twilight65 on June 20, 2010, 11:35:51 PM
Mine from my 1965 were just painted cardboard. I'll post pictures tomorrow.

Dave
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 21, 2010, 12:18:29 AM
Yes, just painted fiber board (I hesitate to use the term cardboard.)
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Twilight65 on June 21, 2010, 02:50:22 PM
Here's pics of my July 65 originals. Moon skin texture, very thin, painted black(even metal clips painted black)

Dave
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/SDC10104.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/SDC10109.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/SDC10108.jpg)
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Patrk71 on June 21, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
Thats the hard card board '65 visors for sure.  I had the white visors versions. 
When I replaced them (1971) the threading was coming apart and visor edge was opening up. 

Were there other colors besides white and the pictured black?  Was there a coordinated color scheme for the interior? 
I think I read that all '65s had a white headliner, is this correct?
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 22, 2010, 12:06:59 AM
Yes, they were color coordinated.  Even with convertibles.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: The Kid on June 22, 2010, 09:59:26 AM
I know this isn't the correct section,but in the event that you were going to attempt to fabricate a pair of these.I have a pair of originals(used,obviously) that I would be willing to sell very reasonably as I will never do anything with them. I don't have them handy at the moment but if you're interested ,I can dig them out.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Patrk71 on June 23, 2010, 09:37:18 PM
I'm not inventive enough to figure out how to make the hard card board visors. 
Does anyone know who makes good repro parts ?    Making repro parts, not selling repro parts.

There might not be much of a market, but I am guessing when the '65s were being sold, not
many paid the upgrade for foam padded visors. They probably only cost a few dollars.
I know I never gave it a thought back then.

Patrick
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 24, 2010, 11:31:12 AM
You might want to start with other Ford models and see if there are any repro's being made for them using the same material.  A good trim shop might be able to help you also.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: rodster on June 24, 2010, 11:33:42 PM
The sunvisors you describe are the "standard" sunvisors for your car.  The Padded Sunvisors were an option.  The Standard sunvisors are not available as a reproduction that I know of.

The Padded Sunvisors were not part of the 65 Pony interior package, correct?  Seems odd someone would select the Pony interior but not the padded sunvisors but I guess it could have happened. ??


Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: NEFaurora on July 09, 2010, 06:35:27 PM

Wow.. Never seen those!  Great stuff!  I always thought that all visors were "padded"..

Tony K.

Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: JKWilson on July 09, 2010, 11:55:17 PM
Tony, betcha HAVE seen them before but didn't realize what you were looking at. Last weekend I was watching the James Bond movie "Thunderball" (for the millionth time!). Honestly, since the beginning of the year I've watched it at least 4 times. I love seeing the Wimbledon White 64 1/2 convertible in it. I've slowly picked up more and more details on the car. Well, when I watched this past weekend I took notice of a really clear shot of the sunvisors. Lo and behold whaddya know...white UN-padded sunvisors!!!  :o
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: The Kid on July 20, 2010, 01:57:38 PM
Tony, betcha HAVE seen them before but didn't realize what you were looking at. Last weekend I was watching the James Bond movie "Thunderball" (for the millionth time!). Honestly, since the beginning of the year I've watched it at least 4 times. I love seeing the Wimbledon White 64 1/2 convertible in it. I've slowly picked up more and more details on the car. Well, when I watched this past weekend I took notice of a really clear shot of the sunvisors. Lo and behold whaddya know...white UN-padded sunvisors!!!  :o
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I never get tired of those movies as well. I have to knit pick you white 64 1/2 vert="Goldfinger". I'm sure that's what you meant as they both have nice early verts in them.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: ChrisV289 on July 20, 2010, 02:37:47 PM
Any pics?  I'd like to see what they look like...
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: 5F09CNot4Sale on July 20, 2010, 04:11:54 PM
Tony, betcha HAVE seen them before but didn't realize what you were looking at. Last weekend I was watching the James Bond movie "Thunderball" (for the millionth time!). Honestly, since the beginning of the year I've watched it at least 4 times. I love seeing the Wimbledon White 64 1/2 convertible in it. I've slowly picked up more and more details on the car. Well, when I watched this past weekend I took notice of a really clear shot of the sunvisors. Lo and behold whaddya know...white UN-padded sunvisors!!!  :o
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I never get tired of those movies as well. I have to knit pick you white 64 1/2 vert="Goldfinger". I'm sure that's what you meant as they both have nice early verts in them.

Thunderball had a LT blue white top vert with black interior
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: JKWilson on July 20, 2010, 10:39:10 PM
Thanks for the correction guys. My brain said "Goldfinger", but my fingers typed Thunderball. If you'd have asked me what I typed, I would have SWORN I listed Goldfinger! :o

Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Twilight65 on July 20, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Here's your pic's . Definitely unpadded visors on the Goldfinger car.
Dave

(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/ThunderballMustang.jpg)(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/goldfingermustang.jpg)(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/ThunderballMustang2.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv8/dkcain1/goldfingermustangvisors.jpg)
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: 5F09CNot4Sale on July 21, 2010, 12:26:09 PM
I looked at a car that had unpaded visors. I think with a little effort they can be made. Take a set of padded, carefuly take the seams off the strip that covers the front, remove the padding, strech and re-seam.

Just a throey at this point. I have not tried this and moveing so can't tinker ATM.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: JKWilson on July 21, 2010, 01:51:42 PM
GREAT pics Dave!
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: CharlesTurner on July 21, 2010, 02:16:16 PM
I looked at a car that had unpaded visors. I think with a little effort they can be made. Take a set of padded, carefuly take the seams off the strip that covers the front, remove the padding, strech and re-seam.

Just a throey at this point. I have not tried this and moveing so can't tinker ATM.

That wouldn't work if correctness is desired.  The originals had no covering at all.  They were just fiber material with a grain pattern pressed into them and then colored properly.  The stitched binding on the edge is similar, if not the same, as the padded visors.

I have an NOS black convertible board-type visor.  When I get over to the storage unit, I'll try to remember to get it.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: 5F09CNot4Sale on July 21, 2010, 03:34:49 PM
OK, thought I had something there. They looked like they just had the mookskin covering the cardboard not the pattern in the cardboard itself.
Title: Re: '65 Visors - Hard Cardboard
Post by: Twilight65 on July 21, 2010, 06:33:50 PM
My original set definitely has the moonskin pressed into the cardboard then painted.
Dave