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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Shelby => Topic started by: Brian in PA on June 27, 2016, 08:52:40 AM
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Hi guys. I saw a pic of the power steering lines on 67 GT 350 that go under the engine instead of along the shock tower and exhaust manifold. Is this correct? If so does anyone have some nice detailed pics? Thanks.
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yes it does go under. same set up as big block except upper hose
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I'm not going to qualify how much a GT350 might differ from an ordinary 289 with power steering but the regular 289's went down under. (Is there a cooler on a 67 GT350? ??? idk?)
Last year I ran a thread on identifying original 67 small block power steering hose details. It should help some (if not a lot) but you might still wish to get input from one of the Shelby guys too. I know there were some running changes in 67 on certain items but I will link the other thread if it helps.
Otherwise, many "Mustang" threads on power steering as well as several Unrestored example pictures available in SEARCH feature.
NOTE: ADMIN ~Please remove the link if it conflicts some how with a Shelby application
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=10247.0
Yes, P/S oil cooler on 67/68 GT350 . As Tim mentioned THE HOSES WERE routed the same as a big block with the difference being a 67/68 GT350 unique upper pressure hose.
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Yes, P/S oil cooler on 67/68 GT350 and as Tim mentioned it was routed the same as a big block with the difference being a 67/68 GT350 unique upper pressure hose.
Is this saying the PS cooler is part of the Pressure Hose side of the lines? (read as Return Hose is same to Mustangs with any 289, pressure hose unique to GT 350's and different than a basic Mustang)
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Is this saying the PS cooler is part of the Pressure Hose side of the lines? (read as Return Hose is same to Mustangs with any 289, pressure hose unique to GT 350's and different than a basic Mustang)
No, the cooler is on the return side. I modified my post to make it more clear.
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thanks for the replies. Does anyone care to share some pics? Where does the cooler mount? I didnt see anything about that in my Shelby assembly book. if it routes the same as a big block does it also use the big block mount and insulator? Thanks!
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thanks for the replies. Does anyone care to share some pics? Where does the cooler mount? ...
Guess its my turn :)
PS hose routing
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-270616155804-595785.jpeg)
Cooler location and hardware
Upper clamp is the original style lower is not
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-270616155733-59562056.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-270616155731-5955157.jpeg)
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thanks for the replies. Does anyone care to share some pics? Where does the cooler mount? I didnt see anything about that in my Shelby assembly book. If it routes the same as a big block does it also use the big block mount and insulator? Thanks!
It uses the same hose mount insulator and bracket as the BB mounted by the lower control arm if that is what you mean. The P/s cooler is mounted on the front side of the radiator support . two holes are cut into the support for hose routing . Additional bulk P/S return line hose is added to connect the cooler to the system. It is run in series between the P/S pump on the one side and the return line from the control valve on the other.
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Here is what the 67/68 Shelby unique P/S upper pressure hose looks like.
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Thanks fellas. Pictures are worth a thousand words 8)
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note bottom pic shows unrestored 67 car & clamp on control valve is worm drive must be a late car anybody note when the strap to worm drive clamp chang e over started in 67 cars?
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note bottom pic shows unrestored 67 car & clamp on control valve is worm drive must be a late car anybody note when the strap to worm drive clamp chang e over started in 67 cars?
Last year I worked on original SJ 289 Mustang P/S system with the strap clamp that had date stamp of March 2, 67 (date code of 7C22A on the PS Cylinder)
Small pressure line fitting too (1/4" flare nut)
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Tagging onto this old thread as it's very appropriate.
When I took my car apart I actually snapped a pic of the crimp connectors at the cooler.
See pic.
Looks just like the version Bob posted earlier.
Did Ford perform the cooler mod or did SA? I'm guessing the later based on ugly holes and non-factory style crimping.
Anyway, I have NOS non-dimple crimp clamps for use at the cooler (in and out). I'll use diagonal cutters (or a crimper without the center piece that prevents the foldover) to crimp the clamp.
What clamp style is used at the break in the two part return line from the control valve? Crimp or screw (see pic)? If crimp, same non-factory method?
What clamp style is used at the pump? Crimp or screw? If crimp, same non-factory method?
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Tagging onto this old thread as it's very appropriate.
When I took my car apart I actually snapped a pic of the crimp connectors at the cooler.
See pic.
Looks just like the version Bob posted earlier.
Did Ford perform the cooler mod or did SA? I'm guessing the later based on ugly holes and non-factory style crimping.
Anyway, I have NOS non-dimple crimp clamps for use at the cooler (in and out). I'll use diagonal cutters (or a crimper without the center piece that prevents the foldover) to crimp the clamp.
What clamp style is used at the break in the two part return line from the control valve? Crimp or screw (see pic)? If crimp, same non-factory method?
What clamp style is used at the pump? Crimp or screw? If crimp, same non-factory method?
The cooler addition was done at Ford assemblyline apparently given the photos of the units at the airport lot prior to Shelby conversion with cooler installed. Crimp clamps were used at the pump and return line. 68 Shelby changed to the screw clamps in your picture at the pump and the return line. The hose was pushed on almost the the elbow of the cooler . The hoses were installed on the cooler and then the hose was fed through the holes. The crimp clamps are installed far enough forward that they are on the front side of the radiator support once installed . That was most likely the reason why the hose was push so far onto the cooler tube.
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Thanks Bob.
Those are some nasty factory holes!
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Reading through this entire thread I am looking at pics in Bob's post #7. 2 pics showing the powersteering lines from under engine compartment. One pic shows lines routed from control valve over top of center link the other pic shows lines from control valve routed beneath center link. which hose routing is correct? Good post Bill, as I needed this info for near future! and as always great info Bob G.
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Reading through this entire thread I am looking at pics in Bob's post #7. 2 pics showing the powersteering lines from under engine compartment. One pic shows lines routed from control valve over top of center link the other pic shows lines from control valve routed beneath center link. which hose routing is correct? Good post Bill, as I needed this info for near future! and as always great info Bob G.
The one you refer to as beneath the center link is typical. Also take note of the two armor clad hoses. They should be parallel to the ground. The position has to do with how the lines are tightened coming out of the control valve ,the positioning of the lines as they go through the clamp (which ever type),the positioning of how the lines are positioned in the rubber junction black and the one of the most important,the tightening of the upper pressure line to the lower because it effects the parallel position. You need 3 hands for that one to do it easily.
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The P/S hoses should go under the center link.
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Thought I'd tag onto this thread for related power steering routing in the engine compartment.
I had the pleasure of seeing this May built un-restored GT350. The usual caveats apply, but this T/E car has original paint, interior and the engine compartment looks mostly original as well.
Here is a shot of the power steering lines under the later windshield washer fluid tank.
Is that black tie wrap around both lines correct?
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Thought I'd tag onto this thread for related power steering routing in the engine compartment.
I had the pleasure of seeing this May built un-restored GT350. The usual caveats apply, but this T/E car has original paint, interior and the engine compartment looks mostly original as well.
Here is a shot of the power steering lines under the later windshield washer fluid tank.
Is that black tie wrap around both lines correct?
The black tie wrap is not original. If a wrap was used then it is the same cr?me/clear/white color zip tie like was used for the Amp gauge wire and oil pressure line. I have seen the PS cooler lines with and without ties. I have seen more with then without.
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Thanks Bob.
Those are some nasty factory holes!
I was replacing hoses today and snapped a pic of the holes in my core support.