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General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: J_Speegle on February 16, 2019, 06:53:06 PM
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Seemed to be fairly popular so here is another picture full of clues and possible distractors.
Rules:
- Identify what the car in the picture likely is by identifying the parts and details included in the picture posted. Then draw your conclusion from those possibilities. In some games the best possible statement can end up being what the car may be based on the visible clues. Or for some it could be this or that depending on what parts are original to the car.
- Be as specific as you can be.
- Not all of the parts visible in the picture may belong to car in question and there may be repairs, replacement parts or part from other cars included in the picture.
- Some games/pictures have fewer clues so the identification may not be as exact as it is in other games.
- Play fair and have fun. The award is not worth an argument ;)
- I anticipate that this game will end and be locked in one week from first posting.
Ready - Set - Go! ::)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-160219175152.jpeg)
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If anything, you need to sweep out your garage more often.
Jim
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65-67 fastback with the fold down flipped down. The center trunk torsion bar hold-down and tootsie roll are at top of the antifreeze container which are only used on fastbacks.
It appears to have a V-8 flexplate so if it belongs it's a 289 automatic.
It's not a generator car.
I'll go for 67 289 auto car, standard black interior.
The red oxide on the inside of the sill may indicate a SJ car.
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The red oxide on the inside of the sill may indicate a SJ car.
All plants would have used red oxide as a base for interior paint coats
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I was thinking of the underside ...
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Not sure but it looks like a lack of carpet on the rocker panel indicates maybe an early build fastback.
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Looks like the floor of my shed, sorry, that s my best guess
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The courtesy light with the long wire has to be from a 64.5, 65, or a 66, as those are the only years without a pigtail for the courtesy lamps. Looks to be an automagic car as well. What I don't see is any trim on the fold-down seat for the fastback.
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Not sure but it looks like a lack of carpet on the rocker panel indicates maybe an early build fastback.
Believe the carpet for under the sill has just tilted back towards the camera since the sill plate is removed. The carpet is long enough the top edge of the vertical inner rocker panel surface.
A little more challenging since the view, angle and clues are reduced.
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Thickness of the front seat back suggest it's a 65-67.
If the parking brake spring goes with the car, that would narrow it down to 65/66. That spring was not used in 67.
It also appears that the seat back for the drivers seat is missing and the pattern of the seat cover would suggest 65. Seat belt anchor looks to be an early design, but it's hard to tell in the picture. My guess is it is a early 65 automatic fastback.
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Is the snout on the starter a longer manual transmission type for a small block ?
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Block spacer plate in lower rt corner?
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Looks like a fender clip with pad that is unique to 65-66... ;D
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I spotted that and wondered what the heck it was.
I don't recall seeing it on my 65, but that was a long time ago.
I'll have to retract my 67 car guess!
But are the condenser and the alternator in the same pic a clue?
Could that mean that the condenser is for a 65 alternator?
I know there is one on the regulator, but is it included here to help lead us toward 65?
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But are the condenser and the alternator in the same pic a clue?
Could that mean that the condenser is for a 65 alternator?
I know there is one on the regulator, but is it included here to help lead us toward 65?
Every thing in these pictures I post for this exercise can be a clue but none of these are set up, instead they are random pictures from my collection that, after review, might work for this sort of practice. Some of the items may or likely were on the car at some point but doesn't mean that they were original to that particular car.
In examples seen at yards there are often parts from other cars tossed in or hidden (moving parts from one car to another in the general area) to keep other people from finding so that the person can return later for them. One reason to check out cars around a car your interested in while at those places.
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Im not up on 65/66 but is that a 6 cyl fuel line touching the starter ?
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Im not up on 65/66 but is that a 6 cyl fuel line touching the starter ?
Might be some bent up automatic transmission fluid lines.
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To show progress and start wrapping this edition let me try the following. I invite others, now that we have identified individual items to share their knowledge and observations so that we can narrow down the possibilities. Will post two numbered pictures and arrow colors for each to better organize the possibilities.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-230219160438.jpeg)
Picture #1
Attempting to go clock-wise around starting from the left of the picture.
Have inserted prior comments
RED- front seat back - 65-67 (7R02A)
DARK GREEN- standard (non-K code) alternator
PURPLE- V8 starter
DARK BLUE- V-8 flexplate - 289 automatic (Bossbill)
MEDIUM BLUE- Possibly automatic transmission fluid lines
LIGHT BLUE- Automatic trans filler tub and bracket to rear engine ear/extension
TEAL-fold down flipped down - 65-67 fastback (Bossbill)
LIGHT GREEN-
YELLOW-courtesy light with the long wire - 64.5, 65, or a 66 (midlife)
ORANGE- Block spacer plate - application ? (1966KGT)
BROWN-
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(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-230219160501.jpeg)
Picture #2
Enlarge this section of the picture. Still can't make out all the parts but many in the two layer can be identified I believe.
Attempting to go clock-wise around starting from the left of thee picture.
Have inserted prior comments
RED 2- fender clip with pad, unique to 65-66 (CharlesTurner)
PURPLE 2- Transmission to engine bolt and lock washer or disc brake caliper mount bolt?
ORANGE 2- end of a bumper to front fender bracket?
DARK BLUE 2- 65-67 fastback -center trunk torsion bar hold-down and tootsie roll (Bossbill)
MEDIUM BLUE 2- Other end of Orange2 above?
LIGHT BLUE 2- 66 grill trim center section/joint cover
YELLOW 2-
BROWN 2- Bumper to bumper bracket carriage bolt
LIGHT GREEN 2- parking brake spring - 65/66 (7R02A)
DARK GREEN 2- Brake light switch?
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Block spacer plate in lower rt corner?
Checked other pictures from the same car and your correct that is what it is. Good eye :)
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Filled in some of the blanks in reply 17 & 18
Agree or do you think its something else?
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Guess the Brown arrow in picture one (if original to the car) is the biggest give way to the cars model and would also support the general feeling that its a 65 or 66.
Put together with most of the other clues it would limit it to a specific year, type and even likely model of car.
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To wrap this up the brown looking (brown arrow) item at the bottom of picture #2 is sort of an odd angle of the item below. With cars in this condition others are often tossed or fall where every they can.
Notice the leather section with the rivet and washer.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-020319004017.jpeg)
Looks like only one item we noticed doesn't fully fit the "picture"
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Well im going to take a stab at it, thinking that the alternator is not original to the car and seeing the seat belt with leather pad on it, the seat cover pattern a 66,front center grill joint cover, I think its a 66 Shelby automatic car,
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The parking brake spring, if you look at it just right it looks like a cylinder, not a spring.
That's my excuse!
Later seat, long snap hook on Ray Brown belt make it an early 66. I think later cars got the short hook.
Agree, 66 GT350 Auto, if the flex plate is to be believed.
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Picture in Reply #22 was just for you guys that didn't recognize what the little corner in picture one could be since not everyone here focuses on Shelby and their related differences. So those two pictures are not from the car but instead show details associated with the seat belts used. The location of the brown arrow is about where the seat belt would be attached, the let section could be the seat belt webbing from a folded side view and the brown patch the back side (natural finish) of the black dyed leather section on the buckle end of the belt. Buckle end and leather are attached with two very small headed rivets. This all for information and not from this specific car.
A shot of the full (in two ways :) of the interior has additional clues - exterior color and other items though again not all original to the car.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-020319004038.jpeg)
kcodecoupe- Believe you will find that this new picture confirms your conclusion.
Other than discussion I think this ran it's course and exercised a few minds a little bit.
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Ya Hoo, do I win the car , good chance it was a rental unit, and a set of koni shocks in the box as a bonus .
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...........and exercised a few minds a little bit.
Shure did. Entertaining and we all learn a bit. Yes, we do want more 8)
Thanks again.
John
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Ya Hoo, do I win the car
Not mine to give ::) Just another I got a chance to look at when it was up for sale here locally. In fact there were three of the same for sale here locally all within 6 months of one another all in about the same condition (partially apart waiting or restoration started)
good chance it was a rental unit, and a set of koni shocks in the box as a bonus .
Yes a Hertz car (pretty late one- within the last ten serial numbered) so Koni's would not be correct and the ones new in the boxes were later NOS versions