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Orange peel question.
J_Speegle:
--- Quote from: ruger on August 30, 2017, 11:02:59 AM ---Thanks Jim, I have been searching out cars in my area to look at with none done to concours standards. I am gonna leave some peel on the lower parts of the car, rockers etc... I hope this will work out for me but I really cannot find any standards for peel. Thanks for your info.
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Some things are difficult to put into words so it falls back on training for the judges and the like. So many cars have been sanded and buffed that it easy easy to note that there is no orange peel. The degree of orange peel on a car that has it is the subjective and difficult to describe part. I typically use the clip board to messure the amount since it provides a reflection of a sharp edge that I can tilt and move as we move around the car. In a pinch, pant legs can provide a edge to compare also
PerkinsRestoration:
--- Quote from: jwc66k on August 30, 2017, 12:48:23 PM ---It's a quandary, a "standard" for a desired flaw.
Jim
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Jim, Orange peel is a result of the paint drying process as much as application of the paint. There is no such thing as no orange peel unless the paint is sanded and buffed. Sanding and buffing is used to correct the flaws in a poor paint job. I think you are confused?
jwc66k:
--- Quote from: PerkinsRestoration on August 30, 2017, 10:15:16 PM --- Jim, Orange peel is a result of the paint drying process as much as application of the paint. There is no such thing as no orange peel unless the paint is sanded and buffed. Sanding and buffing is used to correct the flaws in a poor paint job. I think you are confused?
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Bob,
I painted my first car in 1968 in a carport in Sunnyvale, CA, on a weekend. It was a buddy's 60 Triumph TR3. He wanted it metal flake silver. It came out pretty good. A good guess is I've painted a couple dozen since then, in between designing and building USAF tracking stations, and other trivial projects. Oh, I got my painting experience in the Navy painting ships (Tin Cans) and electronic equipment (mostly radar). That was applied to Mustangs. I got a few awards, and sold a few completed projects, with an appropriate amount of "orange peel". Confused? No.
Jim
ruger:
Thanks for the info guys. I know that trying to explain a desired amount of orange peel is a tough job. I simply had areas that looked a little heavier with peel than others. I have worked the sail panel area to where it is at a low visibility from a straight ahead view but from an angle it is more pronounced. I will proceed to do the entire car to that level. I just thought maybe there would be some pictures to help me with this. I will get some pics of mine and post them. Thanks
CharlesTurner:
There are variables that go into the appearance of orange peel. Remember that these cars were painted with acrylic enamel and then baked to cure, so the paint would flow out and have a more 'coarse' appearance, the orange peel looks 'bigger', for a better term. Most painting done in professional shops these days would not be baked like done at the factory. This ends up requiring the perfect combination of paint mixture, spray method, exterior temperature, humidity... to replicate the original orange peel appearance. I'm by no means a professional painter, but have discussed this at length in the past with my paint guy, who has been running production body shops for 35+ years.
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