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67 convertible trunk divider clip
« on: April 22, 2024, 10:15:53 AM »
I am looking for the clip the retains the trunk divider at the top like in the picture. I cannot find it in the assembly manual. If someone knows where to find them or a part number that would be great.

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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2024, 11:26:40 AM »
I looks to me like 358407 is the fastener number for the clip.

1. The interior assembly manual is of very poor quality, but I think I can see 358407-S2 - 3 required.
2. I did a search for that in all of the documents I have, and it only showed up in the 1958 Ford parts & accessories catalog, but associated with convertible folding top compartment trim.
3. Then I found it in Jim's spreadsheet to seal the deal.
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2024, 11:37:38 AM »
Looks like ones used on a coupe?
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2024, 01:49:58 PM »
Here are the specifications.  If you need some I can go shopping at the junkyard - let me know.
John
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2024, 02:17:28 PM »
Yes, John that is it! Now to find some. It would be a pain to get off a junk car as it is under the top and well Linner.

Thanks again.

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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2024, 02:32:09 PM »
Marty : John "beat me" to the Part Number, but by a different method. Instead of the ASSEMBLY manual, I looked at the 1969 Standard and Utility Parts Book. Due to the uniqueness of the cLip, I figured it would be easy to spot. Sure enough, it shoed up (see attached). Note that there is a symbol shown before the part Number ; I couldn't find a legend for this symbol in the 1969 book, but I have a feeling that it might signify " Not Serviced - Factory Only". Then out of curiosity, I looked in the 1965 S&UP book ; it showed op there also (no symbol shown). Then I went back to my 1959 S&UP book (interestingly, the 1959 version also includes applications for most of the Hardware Part Numbers). The 358407 shoeed up in the 1959 with the application listed for the 1958 Convertible Top Storage Compartment. If the 358407 was "Not Serviced", this may help if you can't find a 67 that has these clips. Unfortunately, I won'y know if I have all of mine until I get to our Colorado place (where you may remember my 67 is) until June or July.

Hope this helps.

Bob

1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2024, 08:29:33 PM »
Yes, John that is it! Now to find some. It would be a pain to get off a junk car as it is under the top and well Linner.

Thanks again.

Most of the convertibles in this particular yard have had the tops removed, and I have power tools lol.  If you strike out elsewhere let me know.
John
67 289 GTA Dec 20 1966 San Jose
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2024, 08:51:10 PM »
Wow it is hard to believe that there are convertibles still in a junk yard. That must be a good one.

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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2024, 08:54:42 PM »
There's a 65 K-code, red with black interior, 4-speed with locking axle.  Of course just about everything is gone.  Might have clips!

A few year ago I pulled out a 68 Cougar R-code.  There are five 1969 Mach 1's.  GTO, Cyclone, 442, Charger... It is like walking back in time.
John
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2024, 08:56:25 PM »
Marty : John "beat me" to the Part Number, but by a different method. Instead of the ASSEMBLY manual, I looked at the 1969 Standard and Utility Parts Book. Due to the uniqueness of the cLip, I figured it would be easy to spot. Sure enough, it shoed up (see attached). Note that there is a symbol shown before the part Number ; I couldn't find a legend for this symbol in the 1969 book, but I have a feeling that it might signify " Not Serviced - Factory Only". Then out of curiosity, I looked in the 1965 S&UP book ; it showed op there also (no symbol shown). Then I went back to my 1959 S&UP book (interestingly, the 1959 version also includes applications for most of the Hardware Part Numbers). The 358407 shoeed up in the 1959 with the application listed for the 1958 Convertible Top Storage Compartment. If the 358407 was "Not Serviced", this may help if you can't find a 67 that has these clips. Unfortunately, I won'y know if I have all of mine until I get to our Colorado place (where you may remember my 67 is) until June or July.

Hope this helps.

Bob

Thanks for the detective work. How is your car coming along?

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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2024, 08:58:24 PM »
There's a 65 K-code, red with black interior, 4-speed with locking axle.  Of course just about everything is gone.  Might have clips!

A few year ago I pulled out a 68 Cougar R-code.  There are five 1969 Mach 1's.  GTO, Cyclone, 442, Charger... It is like walking back in time.

Wow those would be some great cars, especially  the K convertible.

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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2024, 09:02:37 PM »
Wow those would be some great cars, especially  the K convertible.

Looks like a long weekend project.
John
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2024, 02:44:00 PM »
I would like to add the following  comments to this Post :

1)   As John noted previously, the  1967 Interior Assembly Manual page that shows these  clips is of very poor quality. I tried to darken it up in order to make it more readable, but had very limited success (first attachment). However, it is good enough that one can compare it to a page in the 1968 Interior Assembly Manual, and can see that the pages are virtually the same. As you can see (second attachment), the 1968 is much more readable.
The most interesting thing here is the note that these clips were to be used only with the Glass Back Curtain Option.

       2)  At this point, I decided to check with a few of my ?go to? Sellers to see if they      .            might  have some of these clips ; no luck. As was previously mentioned, AMK       
 does not show them as available. I now thought that these clips may have been ?Factory Only?, and ?Not Serviced. I then contacted a long time 1957-59 Ford     
  Friend who still does a lot of ?Junkin?. I sent him a copy of the illustration in
 the Ford Standard & Utility Parts Catalog, as well as a picture from this Post,
 and asked him to check any 1967-68 Mustang Convertibles that he might come
 across for these clips. He noted that the clips looked very familiar. The next day, he got back to me and said that he had several of them ; they were for his ?57
 convertible that he is restoring. We looked in the 57 Body, Trim and Sealant Assembly Manual, and sure enough, there were the 358407-S2 clips ; two on each side of the well liner.  While John noted that the clip appeared in the 1958 Parts and Accessories Catalog, as neither my friend nor I had a 1958 Assembly Manual, we looked in the 1959 Body, Trim and Sealant Assembly Manual, which we both had. Sure enough, it showed that the 358407-S2 clips were required on the 59 Convertibles. Later on, my friend noted that another friend of his had told him that he was pretty sure that these clips had been used on Ford Convertibles through 1962.
This then prompted me to look through the 1953-57 Body Parts Catalog, and each year?s Parts and Accessories Catalog from 1958 through 1967. Interestingly, the only year the clip was listed was in the 1958 Parts and Accessories Catalog, as John had previously noted. This ?exercise?, plus the fact that any illustraions of the clips are only found I Assembly Manuals, just seemed to reinforce my presumption that these clips were Factory Only, and not available as a Service Part.
Sorry for the long explanation, but the purpose of it is to show that if someone is looking for these clips, it is not necessary to limit oneself to 1967-68 Convertibles. Should you come across any 1957-59 Convertibles (and possibly 1960-62?s), be sure to check them for these clips. The next several attachments are of said clips from a 1957 Convertible.
       
3)   Finally, my last comment is in regard to the actual location of these clips on
            1967-68 Mustangs. Could someone Post some pictures of these clips ?in place?
            with some kind of reference as to exactly how to spot them ? Are they best seen
            From the Trunk or from the Back Seat ?
            I figure that my 67 should have them as it came from the Factory with the Glass
            Folding back window Option, and since my Dad bought the car from the Original
            Owner in 1981 (and don?t believe that the Divider Cardboard had ever been
            removed), I believe they should be there. Yet, so far, I have not seen them. Maybe
            I just need to disassemble some more ?

I trust this information will be of help.

Bob
1966 Coupe, C Code, 3 Sp MT, 6T07C154XXX, Build Date 11/22/65
1967 Conv, C Code, C4, 7F03C154XXX, Actual Build Date 01/31/67
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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2024, 12:32:48 AM »
Bob my first post shows the clip in place. They cannot be seen till the well liner is removed. The only cars that got the divider and clips was the glass window tops, their purpose was to protect the glass from objects in the trunk. You can tell if the car originally a glass rear window had by looking for the holes across the back of the trunk were the screws that held the divider were.

Another interesting note it seems that there were two screws that held the bottom of the well liner to the floor of the trunk as well. Both glass and vinyl window cars had them.   

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Re: 67 convertible trunk divider clip
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2024, 01:19:54 PM »
If anyone has one or two of these or finds some, I would like to buy them for my next project.